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To: kabumpo
In this case, “crackpot” fits.

Not a single radical birther who claims that Rubio is not eligible seems to be able to debate, or understand common legal terms, or to understand history.

They have NO authority on their side at all.

NONE!

Yet they persist in their error. That IS the definition of “crackpot”!

Such crackpots hurt the conservative cause. More than a few of the crackpots, who post here, are actually Democrats and Socialists trying to make Conservatives look stupid.

69 posted on 07/31/2012 4:31:44 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
In this case, “crackpot” fits. Not a single radical birther who claims that Rubio is not eligible seems to be able to debate, or understand common legal terms, or to understand history.

Let me address your crackpot remark:

An ad hominem (Latin for "to the man"), short for argumentum ad hominem, is an attempt to negate the truth of a claim by pointing out a negative characteristic or belief of the person supporting it. Ad hominem reasoning is normally described as a logical fallacy, more precisely an informal fallacy and an irrelevance.

Now to subtance. Leo C. Donofrio, Esq. understands. Minor vs Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1875)

The pertinent passage:

“The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves citizens.“

(I paraphrase Donofrio:) In the above passage, the Court noted that Mrs. Minor was born in the US to parents who were citizens. The Court stated that such persons were “natural-born citizens”. The Court also stated – as to such persons – that their “citizenship” was never in doubt. By recognizing Mrs. Minor as a member of the class of persons who were natural-born citizens, they established her citizenship, and in so doing, the Court in Minor directly construed Article 2 Section 1 of the US Constitution.

Supreme Court precedence looks like authority to me. But, I'm just a "crackpot", as so elegantly stated by yourself.

91 posted on 07/31/2012 5:35:50 PM PDT by nonsporting
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To: Kansas58

Your Alinskyesque ridicule tactics expose you for what you are. That you are tolerated at FR is a credit to the genuine conservative principles of the site members ... which include, for your information, defense of the Constitution, even in the little details like requiring a president to be an NBC not just a citizen.


137 posted on 07/31/2012 7:24:33 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Kansas58
Not a single radical birther who claims that Rubio is not eligible seems to be able to debate, or understand common legal terms, or to understand history.

That doesn't stop you either, so I don't know why you would object to it in others. I guess hypocrite is no great leap from idiot.

200 posted on 08/01/2012 11:36:38 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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