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1 posted on 07/31/2012 2:58:43 PM PDT by Perdogg
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Bump for later reading...


55 posted on 07/31/2012 4:08:22 PM PDT by AdvisorB (Dilma is "hope and change" Brazilian style.)
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No.


57 posted on 07/31/2012 4:08:59 PM PDT by bgill
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“Ret. Col. Lawrence Sellin Explains Why Identity Thief Barack Obama Is Not In Jail”

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/07/colonel-lawrence-sellin-explains-why.html


70 posted on 07/31/2012 4:33:00 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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Basically I gather that if Rubio is selected to be the running mate for Romney the left will go haywire and the media will be the willing accomplices to seed doubts upon doubts and the whole thing will end up in court. Remember we fight on a playing field that is not level by any stretch of the imagination. Had Obama been Rubio, the media would have vetted in earnest and drove home the narrative. On the flip side had Rubio been Obama, the same would be true.

The courts would eat up precious time.


71 posted on 07/31/2012 4:33:37 PM PDT by commonguymd
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I suspect the majority of the FReepers don't know what the Dims have against Rubio so I posted a link to what they have made public against him.

This is going to be played against Rubio if Romney picks him for VP. Much of it penny ante, but with the Dem main stream lib media, it is big in their minds.

From The Atlantic:

"The Oppo File on Marco Rubio: Why He's an Unlikely Veep Pick

By David A. Graham

May 4 2012, 12:06 PM ET Comment

Although he could be an asset to Mitt Romney, irregularities in the Florida senator's record would make him a fat target for Democrats. "

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"1. He Improperly Used a Republican Party Credit Card. In 2010, the Miami Herald and the St. Petersburg Times (now the Tampa Bay Times) reported that Rubio, a former speaker of the Florida House, had used a Republican Party credit card for thousands of dollars worth of expenses -- including groceries, wine from a store near his house, and repairs to his family minivan. Rubio says he reimbursed the non-party bills out of pocket, although a party spokeswoman said the card should never have been used for personal expenses. He was grilled about the matter Sunday on Fox News. "Obviously, in hindsight, it looked bad, right? I mean, why are you using a party credit card at all?" he said. "Some of these expenses were because a travel agent had the number -- you know, the credit card number -- and they billed it to that card instead of the other card. Sometimes it was just a mistake ... just literally reached for the wrong card." He argues the matter is closed. But National Journal's Beth Reinhard -- who broke some of the original stories -- points out that he hasn't answered all the questions or revealed all of the relevant documents yet. The kicker? One of his expenses was for $134 at a barbershop. Cue up the parallels to another young, charismatic Southern senator who was once a running mate: John Edwards."

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On this one, the Florida Commission on Ethics dropped the charges as of a few days ago against Rubio.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/05/the-oppo-file-on-marco-rubio-why-hes-an-unlikely-veep-pick/256660/




Would Rubio be a distraction to the campaign besides Rubio not being a natural born citizen? It's better to look somewhere else.

79 posted on 07/31/2012 4:49:34 PM PDT by Red Steel
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“it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”

Minor vs. Happersett, United States Supreme Court


82 posted on 07/31/2012 5:11:42 PM PDT by barnrat
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The 2 questions are: (1) Would Rubio be ruled eligible by today's courts? and (2) Is Rubio, in fact, a natural born citizen?

(1). Since the law currently recognizes birthright citizens as being natural born citizens, then Rubio will be eligible. In one sense, it makes moot any additional discussion.

2. Is the law wrong? Is Rubio, in fact, a natural born citizen? Research done into the date of his birth (1970?) and the date of BOTH parent's naturalization (1975?) suggest that Rubio was not an NBC at the time of his birth. With NEITHER parent an NBC at the time, this does raise questions. I had originally been told his mother was naturalized just a few years after arriving in the US and prior to Marco's birth. Documents and articles I've seen actually demonstrate her naturalization was in 1975.

This is all moot, though, in that the law, as previously stated, has ruled that born citizens are natural born citizens.

122 posted on 07/31/2012 6:45:41 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/natural-born-quotes/

yes, from a lib site, but the citations seem accurate.

I also think that McCain is and was eligible for POTUS, even though the author if this list thinks otherwise.

Still, the list of quotes is overwhelmingly on my side of this argument.

Natural Born Citizen means Citizen at Birth and nothing more.

Congress has the power to define what rules are in place, and change those rules, for Citizens not born on American soil. However, the rules can not be changed retroactively.

A Naturalized Citizen can never be President. This is the ONLY prohibition found in the Constitution.

129 posted on 07/31/2012 7:09:15 PM PDT by Kansas58
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Rubio is neither eligible, nor, conservative.

It would be a disaster to pick him as Romney’s running mate. The Dems will bring up his eligibility, guaranteed

Too bad we have wimps in the “conservative” media who still attack those who bring up Obama Eligibility. However, you can be sure the Dems will go on the offensive with Eligibility if Rubio is the nominee


159 posted on 07/31/2012 8:42:33 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Remember when RINOs were something you hunted in Africa?)
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““Every person born within the United States, its Territories, or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural-born citizen of the United States in the sense of the Constitution…Natural-born subjects are such as are born within the dominions of the crown of England; that is, within the ligeance, or, as it is generally called, the allegiance of the King; and aliens are such as are born out of it.” …… “It makes a man a subject in England, and a citizen here, and is, as Blackstone declares, ‘founded in reason and the nature of government’ … The English Law made no distinction … in declaring that all persons born within its jurisdiction are natural-born subjects. This law bound the colonies before the revolution, and was not changed afterward.” ‘

Rep. Wilson, 1866 Civil Rights Act debates. 10 Cong. Globe, 39th Cong., lst Sess. 1115, 1117 (1866)


264 posted on 08/01/2012 3:32:39 PM PDT by Kansas58
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