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Does Cheney and the Establishment Really Seek to Fire Obama?
Conservatives4Palin ^ | Sunday July 29, 2012 | Steve Fischer

Posted on 07/29/2012 3:11:39 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

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To: Lumper20

LOL, Governor Palin earned her reputation as a fighter and a reformer that took on both parties, and it made her the most popular governor in America, possibly in our history.

Governor Romney failed as a Governor and left office with 34% approval.


61 posted on 07/29/2012 4:00:33 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors,,, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: Williams

I can live with it also but the tone of your posting took on the air of someone who believed Cheney’s opinion was more important than the fact that destiny picks those to lead at its timeline, not so much the learned. Until the end of time, there will always be something new to learn and nobody, nobody knows it all.


62 posted on 07/29/2012 4:02:07 PM PDT by mazda77 ("Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" By: Hilmar von Campe. Everybody should read it.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Sara was a damn sight better prepared than he was. That GOPe coward chickenhawk Cheney. He had better things to do during Vietnam ya know, better than serve in the military. And with his lesbian daughter, porn writing wife, he pushes his open border, NWO, gay marriage philosophy.

A low life if there ever was one. I was THAT close to voting Romney. But he and his clones like Cheney, attacking Sarah before the election are essentially giving me the finger, saying “so what ya gonna do?”.

Unless they kiss Sarah’s ring, my vote is gone and i just want to damage the GOPe all i can so maybe we can have a real chance in 2016.


63 posted on 07/29/2012 4:02:33 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Dick Cheney did Sarah a favor..who would actually want an endorsement from Dick Cheney? Isn’t he the most hated Vice President ever? Sarah is hated in the establishment..good..because I can’t stand the establishment either. Cheney probably wants Jeb Bush to be the VP..So according to Dick, Sarah Palin didn’t have enough experience to be VP(or President) so I guess that means neither do Chris Christie, Kelly Ayotte, or Marco Rubio right Dick?


64 posted on 07/29/2012 4:03:28 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Bigtigermike

“Apparently, Palin’s not ‘ready’ to sit in an administration for eight years which added 5 trillion dollars to our unpaid debt basically demoralizing the spirit of conservatism leading to four years of Barack Obama. Cheney was ‘ready’ for that, wasn’t he?”

Well spoken. As far as I’m concerned, and as far as the truth matters, a man like Cheney loses any and every scrap of credibility earned during his decades in Washington when he makes comments like this.


65 posted on 07/29/2012 4:03:37 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Why do you seek the living among the dead? (Luke 24:5))
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To: mazda77

Agreed.


66 posted on 07/29/2012 4:06:16 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: DesertRhino

Wish FR had a Like or Retweet function...


67 posted on 07/29/2012 4:08:00 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: Bigtigermike

Note to Dick Cheney et al:

If Mr. Romney manages to win the election for President this coming November, it will be on the coat tails of all the actual GOP-Conservatives that all we grass roots Conservatives will be voting for, for seats in the House and the Senate.

In fact, Mitt Romney’s only chance of getting elected is on those coat tails, as enough of us vote for our favorites in Congress and hold our nose when we pull the lever against Mr. Obama; as a patriot duty, not as a choice.

If Mr. Romney, and you, got out of your dream world and understood that, you’d quit pissing us off so often.

If you have anything further to say against any Republican, you best keep it to yourself or at least swear your friends to not repeat it until after November.

Be on notice - the GOP establishment is walking on very thin ice with a majority block of the GOP voters Mr. Romney needs, and that is part of his present weakness against Obama - a complacent and unenthusiastic base, extremely more impassioned against Mr Obama than they are for Mr. Romney. We are not so desperate that we will put up with a pretend reformer, now or after the election.


68 posted on 07/29/2012 4:08:19 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Lumper20

Don’t bring up Generals or the military, or West Point in defense of Mitt Romney, he evaded military service and refused to serve as have his five sons, his dad, and every male in his line since they arrived here in the 1840s to personally serve Joseph Smith.

Romneys don’t do military service, at least not for America.

The draft, patriotism, duty, war, peacetime, nothing has ever snagged one of his for our military, but they have run two generations in a row during wartime to be president.


69 posted on 07/29/2012 4:08:24 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors,,, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: Lumper20

It’s Cheney that started this today. He’s the divisive one, giving the scum in the media a nice a little shiv to thrust between Palin’s shoulderblades. The same pattern the blasted GOP establishment follows time and time again, teaming up with their buddies in the media to trash and belittle the handful of conservative/Tea Party stalwarts. Just like was done to Bachman last week.

I don’t think I’ve ever even said a bad thing about Cheney, despite my many reservations, which have grown over the years. But what the hell is conservative about him? Where has he been either FISCALLY conservative or SOCIALLY conservative? The Bush budgets? Amnesty and open borders? And now, supporting the moral depravity of gay-marriage? If this truly represents the GOP, the whole Party can go to hell. I’ve voted exclusively Republican my whole voting life, never once deviating, but I’ve just about had my fill of this crap, like what Cheney just did! Damn, this makes me mad as hell!!!!!!!

It sure would be downright rich if Palin came out said the Bush-Cheney years “were a mistake!” But no, she doesn’t do that kind of ratty thing. One day, I bet they’re going to push her too far. As it is now, they are virtually for all practical purposes inviting her to leave the Republcan Party.


70 posted on 07/29/2012 4:09:22 PM PDT by greene66
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To: Williams

Experience? Doing what,,getting 5 draft deferrments? Working NIxon, for Ford? Following the Bush crew around like a lapdog for a few decades?

Cheney is a tool who harms conservative causes at every turn. He plays the Wyoming tough talking role well, but he is only tough when it comes to sending others to do things. His experience is basically centered around being a Bush family camp follower, and it served him well.

But he hasn’t done anything on his own, and he is utterly divorced form mainstream American beliefs. But he can fool many by acting willing use the military. This apparently makes him “tough”. Thats his only skill.


71 posted on 07/29/2012 4:09:41 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: ansel12

And yet, He was nominated and She chose not to run

To play the game you must be on the field


72 posted on 07/29/2012 4:10:12 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: bert

We conservatives could use the help of more people but as you demonstrate, even some of those who hang out with us are part of the Romney/Rockefeller wing of the GOP.


73 posted on 07/29/2012 4:15:47 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors,,, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: Williams

“you who criticize Cheney don’t realize YOU are turning on a conservative”

An arrogant turd who told a reporter he had better things to do than serve. And since when is it conservative to take it up the wazzoo? Cheney says thats just fine. When did it become conservative to open the border for 15 million Mexicans to flood in? Cheney is a lot of things, but Conservative ain’t one.
His only supposed “conservatism” is in foreign policy, where he he never saw a war he didn’t like. (except of course, the one he was invited to)


74 posted on 07/29/2012 4:16:25 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Bigtigermike

No. They do not.. They are just getting Romney out of the way. The are marginalizing us (Tea Party). Oh, they pretend to keep us engaged but give us no voice. I don’t think it is coincidental that the only pollster that gives Romney any significant lead is Rasmussen.

We are being played, BIG TIME, by the GOP elite. They know they will have Obama in 2012. They are just gearing up for 2016.


75 posted on 07/29/2012 4:18:39 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: bert
To play the game you must be on the field

The game was played on a field which he bought. And refereed by his allies (i.e. RINOs).
76 posted on 07/29/2012 4:21:05 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: Williams

We let Cheney be Cheney. We let Bush be Bush. We let Rove be Rove.

And what did that get us? OBAMA.

Who in the hell is Cheney to lecture anyone about “Experience”

Thanks to the Bush administration policies, we go Obama.
May I remind Cheney, Bush finished his term @ 27% approval.
One of the lowest in history.


77 posted on 07/29/2012 4:21:59 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Williams

As for his vaunted “experience”,, he and people like him have got us where we are. I don’t want his kind of experience anymore. 35 years or so of his kind of GOP has screwed us a million ways.

Face it, at best he’s an Orrin Hatch, Bob Michel, David Frum kind of republican. I’m fascinated that anyone could think he is conservative.


78 posted on 07/29/2012 4:22:34 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

“They know they will have Obama in 2012.”

Calm down, it’s not gonna happen.


79 posted on 07/29/2012 4:24:05 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: nhwingut

That is a rationalization.

It sorely pains me to say it but for reasons we do not know, Sarah chose to be coy and sit in the stands loudly cheering but not playing. She gives brilliant, inspiring speeches, but she is not engaged. She is not presently a player.

We do not know her intentions.


80 posted on 07/29/2012 4:26:49 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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