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Truck owner wants DEA to pay up after botched sting
Houston Chronicle ^ | July 29, 2012 | Dane Schiller

Posted on 07/29/2012 6:54:24 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: bgill
This isn’t even a dust mite on a hair of a flea on the tip of the iceberg that is government corruption.

It's enough to gag a maggot on a gut wagon.

21 posted on 07/29/2012 8:18:23 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

These are the people who will be running 0bamacare.


22 posted on 07/29/2012 8:20:44 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!!!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Silly American! He actually thinks he has property rights.

The Ubermenschen in DEA will be amused by his pitiful pleas.

I do wish the above was satire.


23 posted on 07/29/2012 8:41:42 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: American in Israel
Turns out that when the government takes it it is, as it were, 'a taking'. The Constitution says the gub'm'nt can't take property without just compensation, so sovereign immunity doesn't count.

Dollars to doughnuts the guy hasn't found a lawyer yet who is familiar with FEDERAL TAKINGS ~ and probably thinks he has to do this under the Federal Tort Claims Act ~ but that only applies when it's not "a taking" ~ so even the lawyers on the government's side probably haven't got a clue either.

Short of kidnapping a federal judge, there are a whole lot of workable solutions. First, a letter to Eric Holder demanding payment for his truck and third party damages for killing his driver.

That's your basis for going to federal district court. USPS has some lawyers who specialize in third party damages ~ might call their General Counsel and ask to talk to a fellow or gal with experience in this sort of thing. They'll probably give him a referral.

The guy who did the first, last and only ever federal eminent domain action in USPS history may still work there as well. It is rare for the federales to get into takings.

24 posted on 07/29/2012 9:12:45 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

More drug war non-sense that will continue due to those of you giving it full support.


25 posted on 07/29/2012 9:37:51 AM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The truck wasn’t really his, since he didn’t build that company. The government provided the schools that educated his workers. The government provided the road that his trucks drove on. The government even provided the cops and bullets to shoot his driver. He needs to stop complaining and pay a higher tax rate. He’s doing less business without the lost truck and worker, but he still needs to carry his share of the load.


26 posted on 07/29/2012 9:59:01 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

there is no constitution, there is no law when it comes to the US government and those in it and we, the people, don’t own anything, the government owns it all. either get used to that fact or do something about it


27 posted on 07/29/2012 10:09:32 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Commandeered by one of his drivers, who was secretly working with federal agents, the truck had been hauling marijuana from the border as part of an undercover operation.

If this was anything like Fast & Furious, they'd be bringing drugs north and not tracking them. Of course, the government would NEVER do such a thing as allow illegal drug running to finance a political agenda. /s

28 posted on 07/29/2012 11:18:00 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party Switcheroo: Economic crisis! Zero's eligibility Trumped!! Hillary 2012!!!)
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To: Pollster1

Well said. The gov. is not God. And at least this time it cannot be claimed they provided the contraband!


29 posted on 07/29/2012 12:16:09 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute actual sinner, + trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I hope that Craig Patty starts a fund for donations. The Feds and state will draw this out to bankrupt him, or at least make it no longer worth his while. And if he starts litigation, his business will be investigated to damage his credibility.


30 posted on 07/29/2012 12:17:43 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
For its part, the DEA has not admitted that it was using Chapa as a spy because its official policy is not to comment on whether someone was an informant.

Oh Puhleeze.

If the DEA hadn't been using the (now deceased) driver as a spy/informant, they would have siezed the truck and claimed they'd made a big bust.

Now, for an intangible: This man's company has been tied, by virtue of a DEA operation carried out without his knowledge, to drug smuggling.

The oil patch is pretty strongly against drug use, and as a rule very conservative.

If this guy makes his living by hauling frac sand for the oil industry, the DEA has placed a stain on his company's reputation by tying it in with drug smuggling.

(Not to mention ginning up an excuse now to check every load of frac sand, which would make the ecowhackos in the administration just short of orgasmic).

The government has, through the DEA, stolen his truck, performed unauthorized use of that motor vehicle in conjunction with what would normally be considered a criminal act, causing a loss of revenue, wear and tear on and unusual damage to the vehicle, and the loss of an employee's life, as well as damaged the reputation of his company.

Compensation is due, and some people should be either prosecuted, or at the least fired, for the actions as well.

31 posted on 07/29/2012 1:56:46 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: television is just wrong

Are you serious ??? Nobody will be held accountable for F&F, Govt. will never hold its own accountable. Obama is claiming Executive Privilege so Eric Holder can stonewall forever . The only real chance at any kind of JUSTICE would be if the Mexicans whacked Holder after he is no longer AG.


32 posted on 07/29/2012 4:38:36 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: Smokin' Joe

I too found it interesting that they chose a truck (and driver) hauling fracking sand AND from a businessman with few means and resources to confront them.


33 posted on 07/30/2012 1:17:39 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It reeks of an agenda or two, no matter how you look at it.

Trucking is a service, and by using his truck while claiming it was in the shop, they stole that service. (Not to mention the wear and tear from mileage--and the shootout). That theft quickly adds up to a felony at current haulage rates.

No one wants marijuana on an oil location, either, so the truck will have to be thoroughly cleaned before he can haul anything with it, and he might want to borrow a drug sniffing dog to give it a once-over to prevent future 'discoveries' and other problems.

34 posted on 07/30/2012 1:44:01 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: daniel1212

Maybe it was an off-the-books operation to supplement a retirement fund gone bad? Intel of routes, supply and distribution nodes, cartel contacts and inter-agency cover stories would enable freelance by insiders.


35 posted on 07/30/2012 9:59:13 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Arrowhead1952; Racehorse; chicagolady; K-oneTexas; fuzzthatwuz; publana; ...

Ping!


36 posted on 07/30/2012 11:55:14 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Follow the money on both sides of the border.)
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