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To: Mr Rogers

New rules in the system as I left stated that such a plan was not permitted. Granted, I was in the Army, but I think it was DOD and not just DA.

They said that one could not have an endorsement pulled and remain on active duty, grab an endorsement-of-convenience, and go on in a seamless career.

The ONLY way for that to happen was for the losing denomination to accept the transfer. In other words, if they were yanking your endorsement for cause, then it was a demonstration of bad faith on the part of the military to undercut that denomination’s decision about their standards for their chaplains.

Therefore, they insisted that any seamless continuation on active duty could only be with the acceptance of the losing denomination. After all, that chaplain went to bird colonel as a southern baptist, and had represented himself as such, and that denomination had invested a great deal in him when it could have been advocating others who were more in keeping with their views.

The job of a chaplain is to be that denomination’s representative. There is no such thing as a government religion.


35 posted on 07/28/2012 8:56:21 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

This could be out of date, but anything in the military can be waived by someone, and I’m sure Obama himself would authorize it to show his support for gays, if needed:

26 AR 165–1 • 3 December 2009

8–9. Loss/change of ecclesiastical endorsement
a. All Chaplains are required to have on file with OCCH an Ecclesiastical Endorsement (DD Form 2088) submitted
for them by an AFCB Listed Endorsing Agent. If an Endorsing Agent withdraws a Chaplain’s ecclesiastical endorse-ment, then the officer must immediately cease from all religious activities, that is, performance of rites, ceremonies,
services, pastoral counseling, and so forth. Under no circumstances will the Chaplain perform any Chaplain functions without a valid ecclesiastical endorsement.

b. A withdrawal of ecclesiastical endorsement is official when a Chaplain’s Endorsing Agent notifies the CCH of
the loss of endorsement in writing. In accordance with DODI 1304.28 and AR 600–8–24, the CCH will then notify the
Chaplain of the loss of endorsement and offer the following 4 options:

(1) Seek a new ecclesiastical endorsement from an AFCB Listed Endorsing Agent. If another ecclesiastical endorse-ment is not obtained, the Chaplain will undergo involuntary separation in accordance with AR 600–8–24 or AR
135–175.

(2) Submit a voluntary retirement request, if eligible.

(3) Submit an unqualified resignation request. If the Chaplain has not fulfilled their MSO, then the request is
forwarded to the ASA(M&RA) for waiver approval.

(4) Request a branch transfer. If a Chaplain is granted an appointment in another branch, the officer will not wear
the Chaplain branch insignia or be assigned to a Chaplain position.

c. Chaplains seeking a change in ecclesiastical endorsement must submit a request to OCCH, DACH–1 and coordinate the action with both current and prospective Endorsing Agents to avoid a loss of endorsement. As the approving authority, the CCH may convene a special advisory board to review the circumstances surrounding a Chaplain’s request for a change in ecclesiastical endorsement.


36 posted on 07/28/2012 9:03:14 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberalism: "Ex faslo quodlibet" - from falseness, anything follows)
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