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To: pallis; ansel12

No, Bush did not win 44% of the Hispanic vote in 2004. That figure was based on a flawed exit poll, and has been debunked from both the left and the right. I know Dick Morris and others continue to cite this false figure, but it does us no good to believe something that almost certainly wasn’t true. Bush won at most 40% (maybe one or two points less) of the Hispanic vote. And while that is good for a Republican, it was still a huge, double-digit loss to a rather uninspiring opponent in John Kerry.

So the bottom line is that the most a shameless panderer like Bush could do was a roughly 20 point loss!

I’m not as familiar with the numbers on Hispanic Protestants, but I’ve read they do tend to be more Republican. But this isn’t much to hold out hope on. Mass immigration reinforces the things that make Hispanics vote Democratic in the first place. So as long as we have high levels of Hispanic immigration, it is just a pipe dream that the GOP will win over latinos.


104 posted on 07/27/2012 11:44:13 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: Aetius

Of course I never posted anything about Bush winning 44% of the Hispanic vote in 2004 so that post was pretty much wasted on me.

Getting roughly 50/50 voting from Protestant Hispanics is something that republicans need to know about, they are voting to the right of the overall Catholic vote.


107 posted on 07/28/2012 12:25:00 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors,,, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: Aetius

I think Bush’s figures of 35 percent for the 2000 race were probably close to the actual number. All other things being equal, statistically speaking, he probably got that, and maybe a little higher in 04. That said, the 44 percent doesn’t add up. We were getting scammed, and not just from the Bush camp. Bush may have held up his percentage of the Hispanic vote, but the extremes he went to to do that cost him dearly with the conservative base. That shows up even more with McCain. Pandering to illegals with amnesty and handouts, and supporting liberal immigration policies has damaged the Republican Party. That isn’t the way to get and keep conservative leaning Hispanics. You are absolutely right.

There are a lot of things that need to be done in regards to cleaning up our institutions and agencies, if the Republican Party hopes to remain viable. As for getting the Hispanic vote, we have a great opportunity right in front of us, while Obama and his communists attack the Catholic Church and other Christian institutions. All we have to do is offer our help and the respect for Christian values inherent in conservatism. It seems like the Republican establishment is so locked into amnesty they can’t realize an opportunity that is right in front of them.


117 posted on 07/28/2012 8:48:08 AM PDT by pallis
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