Uh....is it a full moon for Freepers or?
” but we do know that the doc failed.”
Uh, no...”we” don’t. Did someone here think that psychiatrists can cure and control schizophrenia?
Anyone here aware of the big sea change in the mental health field about 20 years ago where Health Services people working with gov emptied the mental hospitals, supposedly for humanitarian reasons? Know how hard it is to keep a suicidal person in a psych ward against their will? I used to work for a clinical psychologist. One of her clients had her phone number written across her arm - during close, persistent questioning, she admitted that she planned to kill herself and the phone number would help police notify her family. (Note: No one made her go to that psychologist, what if she had acted calm that day and wore long sleeves? Human behavior is not easily controlled by outside observers, right?) So the psychologist was glad to get her admitted to the psych ward at the hospital...which promptly released her 24 hours later. It is HARD to get someone in and even harder to keep them in.
If this doc in the OP was being exposed for unethical or concealed info required to be passed to police - I’d expect the kind of accusations seen on this thread. However, what triggered all the sneering accusations was the mere fact that he had seen a psychiatrist. Now, I don’t know if he did it as a cover story or not - let’s find out. But this guy was supposedly planning for awhile - just how likely is it that he went to all that trouble and then went and told a psych all about it? He still wanted to carry out the plan, right? He’d probably check to find out what the Doc would have to relay right?
At the psychologist’s office where I used to work, just leaving the front door open for sunshine and air attracted disturbed people to come into the office and start asking the psychologist VERY detailed questions about what she’d have to report IF it were reported to her. Seems like the monster who calls himself the Joker would have done SOME search on that right?
I am curious, though. Just what is the master plan for people who become schizophrenic? If anyone who tries to help them is guilty of anything they do, then no one will help them. It’s a mental illness, people. Don’t we want them treated? There’s no cure - do you want these people ‘put down’ like dogs? I think having Schizophrenia must be bad enough without being denied any possible treatment or perhaps being automatically incarcerated. But hey if there was a way to know who was dangerous, I’d be in favor of incarceration. But there isn’t a reliable way to predict behavior and states like mine have largely abandoned the idea of hospitalization for people with severe mental illness much to the dismay of families, communities, and even some of these patients. I don’t know all the answers but I am just taken aback by the assumptions made by many on this thread.
After reading some of these posts, I don’t know why some of you didn’t suggest burning anyone with severe mental illness and perhaps any doc who tries to help them.
I suspect he was setting up an insanity defense but I’ll wait to find out more. Some professional commentators (talking heads) have said they think he’s genuinely ill. I dunno, but I will wait to find out who did what before vilifying the mentally ill (I think they have enough problems) or those who try to treat them.
Of course they can't cure, but can control to a certain extent with big drug. Most rely on big pharma like most medical doctors do nowadays. They have job security considering ya see folks all over town arguing with telephone poles, wanting to beat down old ladies for no reason.