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To: Albion Wilde

I didn’t think the “Scots” in Scots-Irish were necessarily of full Celtic stock (e.g. Highlanders). More an amalgamation of the Angle, Saxon, Norman, Romano-British and Celtic blood lines that mixed and mingled for hundreds of years in the Midlands of England. Plus, was not even the “Irish” side more Anglo-Irish in culture than Celtic?


13 posted on 07/27/2012 11:55:21 AM PDT by mkboyce
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To: mkboyce

The Scots in Scots-Irish/Scotch-Irish/Ulster Scots were Lowlanders and Borderers.

From Ayrshire, the Borders, Galloway, Inverclyde, Glasgow, Lanarkshire.


19 posted on 07/27/2012 11:59:33 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: mkboyce
You're close to right, many of the Scots Borderers were English, who fell on the North side of the line and liked to speak English even more strangely than their cousins to the South.

To read the history of the border country in Scotland should be required reading for libertarians.

37 posted on 07/27/2012 12:24:29 PM PDT by Little Bill
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To: mkboyce

“I didn’t think the “Scots” in Scots-Irish were necessarily of full Celtic stock (e.g. Highlanders). More an amalgamation of the Angle, Saxon, Norman, Romano-British and Celtic blood lines that mixed and mingled for hundreds of years in the Midlands of England. Plus, was not even the “Irish” side more Anglo-Irish in culture than Celtic?”

The term “scots-irish” was coined in America, in the mid 1800s, once the “potato famine” Irish began immigrating here.

Until then, the “scots-irish” in America called themselves “Irish” for that was their classification, when they came to the colonies during the 1700s.

The potato famine Irish of the mid 1800s were of low education, low economic class, and generally looked down on.

In order to distinguish themselves from these Irish newcomers, the earlier settlers called themselves “Scots-Irish” as a mark of superior class.

In Canada and the UK, the term “scots-irish” is NOT used. They are called mainly “Ulters-Scots.”

As far as celtic-purity, it is easy to prove the Ulster-Scots have many claims to celtic heretige.

I will leave defending this claim to those better qualified than I am.

Racially the people of Ireland and Scotland mix Celt, Roman, Anglo-Saxon, Danish, Norman blood with several others. To say one is “pure” or “more pure” is a hard claim to support.


58 posted on 07/27/2012 1:36:51 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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