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Penn State football slammed with NCAA sanctions
ESPN ^ | July 23, 2012, 11:30 AM ET | Associated Press

Posted on 07/23/2012 10:50:35 AM PDT by Absolutely Nobama

INDIANAPOLIS -- Penn State football was all but leveled Monday by an NCAA ruling that wiped away 14 years of coach Joe Paterno's victories and imposed a mountain of fines and penalties, crippling a program whose pedophile assistant coach spent uncounted years molesting children, sometimes on university property. The sanctions by the governing body of college sports, which capped eight months of turmoil on the central Pennsylvania campus, stopped short of delivering the "death penalty" of shutting down the sport. But the NCAA hit Penn State with $60 million in fines, ordered it out of the postseason for four years, and will cap scholarships at 20 below the normal limit for four years. The school also will be on probation for five years.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: ncaa; paterno; pedstate; pennstate; sandusky
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To: wrcase

The reason that they haven’t done that is that there is stability in the existing system. Both the NCAA and the football factory schools make a lot of money from football, and it is in both of their interests to make sure that continues.

So if the NCAA starts making rulings that put that revenue stream in jeopardy, then schools are more open to another system. Again, this is why schools like Alabama and USC and Ohio State get a pass while schools like SMU and Baylor get slammed. If Baylor takes its football program and leaves the NCAA, who cares? But if Alabama does it—well, that’s a problem.

As far as an alternative professional league, no. It would basically be a farm system that exists that the schools’ expense. I suspect the NFL would like that arrangement, just like it likes the arrangement with the existing NCAA.


121 posted on 07/23/2012 3:49:32 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: LeonardFMason
...McQueery...

McQueery was simply a grad student when he was that shower witness to child rape...Paterno promptly rewarded McQueery's silence with a wide receiver coach job...then rewarded his longterm silence by promoting McQueery to both wr coach AND head of recruiting...what was interesting in happy valley last fall was how many anti-McQueery attitudes developed...and adamant negative tudes...and rightly so...yet 'twas Paterno who had the exact reverse attitude toward McQueery for being a "team player" in maintaining silence...this was yet one more dagger in showing joepa's guilt...some alumni were ready to almost lynch McQueery -- all as joepa amply elevated and rewarded him by moving him up the ladder, thereby "purchasing" his ongoing silence...truly pathetic...

btw people keep talking as if all the psu asst coaches have moved on...two are still there...as is spanier...who has tenure as a prof...penn state still doesn't "get it"

122 posted on 07/23/2012 4:05:34 PM PDT by Colofornian (Saying Mitt would keep past political promises is like prophesying that Gumby won't bend anymore)
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To: Publius Valerius

The issue is that Alabama can’t leave the NCAA regardless of what rulings the NCAA makes. They have to forego the revenue that the SEC and the NCAA makes from CBS. The rogue league would have to sign its own TV contract. I don’t think the rogue league expands the universe of college football viewers, and they still have to split the money amongst the other members of the rogue league. Is the person in Montana who doesn’t care about Alabama going to watch them just because they are in a different league, I don’t think so. Therefore, there is nothing for Alabama to gain by splitting from the NCAA, so I suggest playing by the rules. If Alabama violates the rules and there is punitive punishment, so what, the sun still rises tomorrow.

I agree there should be a professional minor-league for the NFL. I do not want the colleges involved because they are taxpayer funded institutions and I am opposed to taxpayer funded sporting teams and facilities for professional leagues and that is not the function of universities.


123 posted on 07/23/2012 4:09:17 PM PDT by wrcase
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To: Colofornian

Wow. The NCAA, WITHOUT an investigation, soley on the Freeh report can exact $60,000,000 dollars from an institution. The NCAA would make Brian Ross of ABC proud.


124 posted on 07/23/2012 4:27:24 PM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: Absolutely Nobama; All
All: one aspect of the penalty is penn state has to vacate all wins going back thru 1998...that means that when you realize penn state lost its last 2 games of 1997, it now has a losing streak of 175 straight losses...11 of those as bowl games...that means from 1970 on...joepa{thetic} now has a losing coaching record of 208-227-2... still even a losing record including perfect 1969 season...
125 posted on 07/23/2012 4:41:14 PM PDT by Colofornian (Saying Mitt would keep past political promises is like prophesying that Gumby won't bend anymore)
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To: LeonardFMason

Penn State signed off on the findings of The Freeh Report....Call it an admission of guilt.


126 posted on 07/23/2012 4:45:07 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: LeonardFMason

1. The Freeh report is an investigation. Don’t be moonbat crazy.
2. The Grand Jury report put police investigative material on the public record for all to see.
3. Sandusky’s trial made even more investigative material public.

Public materials are legitimate sources for administrative action.

If you have a source showing the NCAA performed no additional investigation on its own, post it. If you can not I must assume you made that up, even though its not really relevent.


127 posted on 07/23/2012 4:49:22 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: HamiltonJay
To allow this “university” to engage in ANY sport under the NCAA banner ever again showed abject cowardice.

I think the state of P*********** should be abolished and the land and citizenry partioned among New Jersey, New York, Maryland, and Ohio ( screw Delaware. )

128 posted on 07/23/2012 5:04:56 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Absolutely Nobama

Absolutely correct. SMU got the death penalty for recruiting violations. Which is worse, recruiting violations or serial homosexual rapes of young males committed by a prominent football coach in PSU facilities and then covered up at the highest levels of staff and administration? I’ll take the latter choice anytime. But, obviously, PSU wields more influence than SMU.


129 posted on 07/23/2012 5:13:00 PM PDT by izzatzo (Just beat Obama.)
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To: Colofornian

Good then stop this liberal witch hunt and start playing football. You guys who want football to shut down will be awful surprised when tuition goes up even more. Also football subsidizes other sports that will be stopped due to your stupid nonsense about shutting down football. Just because some of you didn’t play football does not mean it needs to be done away with.


130 posted on 07/23/2012 5:38:39 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: LeonardFMason; dfwgator; MrEdd
Wow. The NCAA, WITHOUT an investigation, soley on the Freeh report can exact $60,000,000 dollars from an institution.

(Well, let's see if Penn State appeals this penalty, shall we? If not, "guilty" as charged...I mean, hay, if even obvious murderers on death row can appeal, then surely you're sweet & innocent ones @ Penn State would...right?)

131 posted on 07/23/2012 5:42:47 PM PDT by Colofornian (Saying Mitt would keep past political promises is like prophesying that Gumby won't bend anymore)
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To: napscoordinator
Good then stop this liberal witch hunt and start playing football. You guys who want football to shut down will be awful surprised when tuition goes up even more.

Ya mean Penn State tuition goin' up...all as the "value" of a Penn State degree is dropped to "yard sale" level???

Well, if that happens, good. (As many discouragements should be put in place in pre-empt students from wasting their $ buying a "yard sale" degree @ inflated prices)

132 posted on 07/23/2012 5:46:42 PM PDT by Colofornian (Saying Mitt would keep past political promises is like prophesying that Gumby won't bend anymore)
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To: izzatzo

(while I agree with your sentiment...it comes down to a line uttered during a previous election campaign: “It’s the economy, stupid!” (And I mean nothing personal by that)


133 posted on 07/23/2012 5:50:54 PM PDT by Colofornian (Saying Mitt would keep past political promises is like prophesying that Gumby won't bend anymore)
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To: Absolutely Nobama
a letter to the editor: To the Editor: I find it sad that the career of Joe Paterno is being destroyed for his failure to act against one of his homosexual coaches. But was he following the example set by the University? A few years ago, Penn State fired its women’s basketball coach, Rene Portland, for events surrounding her not allowing homosexuals on her team. The homosexual community, in their quest for tolerance, would not tolerate ONE team in the nation being solely hetero. We don’t know what Paterno was thinking or why he failed to act. It is possible that he saw what happened to Portland and decided not to enter same arena; who would want to face the attorneys that can be brought forward by the homosexual groups?

Paterno is now dead and his memory is being disgraced. But we need to focus on who committed the real crime. Our nation has been left wondering if the punishment and the criticism are being properly directed.

134 posted on 07/23/2012 5:52:07 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Defeat Obama. Everything else is secondary)
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To: napscoordinator
Yes some kids got hurt...

(Btw...do you always go 'round describing multiple/repeat rape victims as being "hurt"??? Or only in cases where you're defending the actions of child perp accomplices???)

135 posted on 07/23/2012 5:53:32 PM PDT by Colofornian (Saying Mitt would keep past political promises is like prophesying that Gumby won't bend anymore)
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To: PzLdr
Aside from the opportunity to play Penn State in the Pariah Bowl, what POSSIBLE benefit would any school, no matter what their gripes, real or imagined, with the NCAA, get from associating with the Nittany Lepers?

Bingo!

And ya know that not only applies to the Pariah Bowl -- but the Big Pariah Conference...which also features the likes of a major cover-up and glorification of Kinsey (Indiana University) -- and Kinsey's pedophile "researchers" ... Just google "The children of table 34" and you'll see what I mean...

136 posted on 07/23/2012 5:56:29 PM PDT by Colofornian (Saying Mitt would keep past political promises is like prophesying that Gumby won't bend anymore)
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To: napscoordinator

Get a grip. Breathe some air.

Football is a passtime.
A diversionary activity.
Like reading a book, or going to the theater.

It isn’t really important in the grand scheme of life.

Go do something with your spouse, or teach your kids something. Maybe clean your garage.

Stop obsessing about whether some particular group of people is going to play a game with each other.

That isn’t important.


137 posted on 07/23/2012 5:57:04 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Gaffer

Spot on.


138 posted on 07/23/2012 5:58:13 PM PDT by alarm rider (I took the pledge, I will never vote for another RINO, not now, not ever.)
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To: Gaffer
The NCAA death penalty should be the death penalty - not money, but complete removal of football - for at least a generation.

Because Penn State was not previously on probation, the NCAA's hands were tied in the matter. Penn State probably could have successfully overturned the DP, and then what? Probably safer to do what the NCAA did.

139 posted on 07/23/2012 6:00:01 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: LeonardFMason; Scoutmaster
I have always disagreed with the NCAA dropping the hammer on institutions after the culprits are gone

(Yeah, that's just so inconvenient that these schools just don't police themselves to blow the whistle on themselves as these very infractions are taking place...ALL: Leonard's comment would be just like people expecting an offensive lineman to grab the closest official's flag to toss it on himself for holding as the play unfolds)

140 posted on 07/23/2012 6:00:04 PM PDT by Colofornian (Saying Mitt would keep past political promises is like prophesying that Gumby won't bend anymore)
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