Or..
...Choose the Prophet
Posted on 07/23/2012 9:33:15 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
I would have NEVER guessed this if you had not revealed it!!
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when I see videos of Mormons beheading people
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when I see videos of Mormons stoning a woman to death because she was raped.....
.....then we’ll talk.
It seems you are worried about folk's physical life than their spiritual.
Says the person who cries "BIGOT" to cow folks into wasting time defending a charge both unsourced and scurrilous.
Likewise...
What CHRISTIAN could stand for anything that helps MORMONism?
Some people are so focused on the temporal that they can’t see the eternal.
In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet”, for our salvation depends on them.
1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6. The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer.
I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain—how close do our lives harmonize with the Lord’s anointed—the living Prophet—President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.
Ezra Taft Benson
(Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University) http://www.lds.org/liahona/1981/06/fourteen-fundamentals-in-following-the-prophet?lang=eng
Or..
...Choose the Prophet
As Joseph Smith himself said when some elders caught him drinking whisky and smoking a cigar:
In regard to "Americans leaving LDS," were I a member I wouldn't worry. In my own church, people come and go constantly. Americans are now whimsical "religion shoppers." I can never make up my mind about missionaries of any religion. On the one hand, I have worked around the world and have seen the tremendous physical and social good that they do, while on the other, their native flocks tend to wind up with a combo of native mumbo-jumbo and Christian superstition, e.g., Voodoo, or Santeríá. In this, the Mormons are probably no worse than the others.
One good thing I saw in Kenya of all places, is that all of the Christian missionaries actually cooperated with each other! Wow!
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This is in Utah!
Wanna join in here?
Heh...
You have summed it up perfectly.
Fortunately, the light of truth is being shed on the lies of mormonism every day, and more light will be coming in the MSM in the next months.
You and your ilk are an insult and an embarrassment to Christians and conservatives everywhere.
ALL: Vermont Vet, unfortunately, isn't very "comprehensive" in his research...
What have Mormon leaders said about these messages from Mormonism's "General Authorities" referenced in the Mormon Journal of Discourses?
(1) Who authorized George D. Watt to record the Journal of Discourses -- as bold faced above even by Vermont Vet's words? (Why, Brigham Young did)
(2) Who ranks highest in the Mormon church to carry out what he assigns? (The "prophet")
So...when we've seen grassroots Mormons in the past -- or in this case -- a sudden (unMormon) Mormonic apologist operating under the guise of "Vermont Vet"... indicating that we should disregard the "Journal of Discourses" as unofficial, consider this:
Who ranks higher to Mormons?
A New England "gentile" like Vermont Vet?
Or, even an Lds "apostle"? What did Lds apostle Franklin D. Richards in the JoD preface of vol. 2 reference the Journal of Discourses as?
"The Second Volume of the Journal of Discources needs no recommendation to make it interesting to every Saint who loves to drink of the streams that flow from THE fountain of Eternal Truth.
Also...who ranks higher to Mormons? A New England "gentile" like Vermont Vet? Or, a member of the First Presidency who served in such a role to four different Lds “prophets?” What did this First Presidency official reference the JoD as?
"The Journal of Discourses deservedly ranks as one of the standard works of the Church, and every rightminded Saint will certainly welcome with joy every Number as it comes forth from the press..." (President George Q. Cannon, JoD, preface, Vol. 8)
For you gentiles a "standard work" per Mormonism is one of their four "scriptures"...This first president is labeling the JoD as "ranking" right alongside those "standard works" -- precisely because Mormons tout their leaders being living "scripture factories" of their god.
What about Lds leaders within or closer to our lifetime? What have Lds leaders said about the JoD?
Well, on March 21, 1963, the Lds church-owned Deseret News ran an ad from Lds church leadership about the JoD. The ad read:
Every Latter-day Saint should take this opportunity of owning the written words of remarkable teachings from the LDS pulpit. To the clear and vigorous exposition of Latter-day Saint doctrine is added the unmistakable authority of divine inspiration."
What more can we get from leaders re: the JoD? Here church leaders were sqawking that the JoD is...
..."from the LDS pulpit..."
...exposes "Latter-day Saint doctrine" clearly & vigorously...
...presented with "divine inspiration...authority" -- and there's no mistake ("unmistakable" about that)
So, e'en tho many grassroots Mormons or their allies will indicate these "Lds leaders" are mistaken re: their assessments of the JoD, note that...
...Three months after that ad appeared in the Deseret News, the assistant manager of the DesNews, Axel J. Andresen, wrote a letter about the JoD to a Mr. H.C. Combes dated June 12, 1963. In a few excerpts from that letter, Mr. Andresen said:
"...the 26 volumes of the 'JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES,'...If anyone tells you that the sermons found therein are not recognized by the Church, they know not what they are talking about. I am sure that the individual is not anyone in authority -- certainly not among the General Authorities...May we also assure you that Deseret Book Company, being the only Church-owned book store, would not distribute literature on the Church, particularly anything as important as the Discourses of the Presidents and Apostles of the Church, without the approval of the Church..."
ALL: This DesNews Asst Mgr says before contemporary Mormons (or New England "gentiles") even opened their mouths on this subject, that they "know not what" you "are talking about."
Just the opposite. I can't tell you HOW MANY times the comments on FR threads get reduced to the tunnel vision of either being...
...anti-Obama (while never spouting ONE THING worth voting FOR Romney other than he's "NOT" Obama)
...or anti-socialism/anti-communism (never mind that late 19th century Mormons in Utah helped to inspire Soviet communism)
...or anti-Jihadism (as if physical death was Jesus' primary concern)
When those comments have come, I've seen exMormon Reaganaut step forward and remind people that we do know how to multi-task.
Many times I've given the example how in warfare, like WWII -- the "Silent Generation" taught us all how to multi-task with multiple enemy nations on multiple fronts.
In fact, here's an exact quote of mine from a previous thread:
"I tell you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more. But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after the killing of the body, has power to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him." (Luke 12:4-5)
So does Jesus say, "fear the bomber-terrorists?" (No)
Does Jesus say "fear the 'atrocity-mongers?'" (No)
Does Jesus say "fear the be-headers?" (No)
Instead, does He say to exercise fear of the One who has authority to cast somebody into hell? (Yes)
So, indeed, our "fear" is on behalf of those who are placing their eternal spiritual lives at risk. Of course, this includes Muslims as well...thankfully...not everybody has ADD or ADHD in this generation...like the Silent Generation which fought WWII, some can multi-task on multiple frontlines!
I've also said many times that: only a fool thinks the "brush fire" here on earth is the three-alarm, city-wide meltdown that hell represents.
You and your ilk have been deceived by the Minions of MORMONism.
It is a dead end.
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