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Mormons on Cusp of New Powerful Era
The Hill ^ | July 23, 2012 | Cameron Joseph

Posted on 07/23/2012 9:33:15 AM PDT by greyfoxx39

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The benefits of governing of the US will go from aiding Obama's "people" to aiding Romney's "people" who make up less that 3% of US populace.

Utah is already a theocracy.

“The Almighty has established this kingdom with order and laws and every thing pertaining thereto…[so] that when the nations shall be convulsed, we may stand forth as saviours…and finally redeem a ruined world, not only in a religious but in a political point of view.” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 9, p. 342, April 13, 1862) John Taylor, LDS Prophet and church president.

1 posted on 07/23/2012 9:33:25 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
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To: greyfoxx39

I have been reading articles later about a membership exodus of Mormons.

Once Romney wins the election I expect him to do for Mormonisme kinda what Obama has done for black causes: Set it back a few decades.


2 posted on 07/23/2012 9:39:19 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: greyfoxx39

bigot.


3 posted on 07/23/2012 9:42:45 AM PDT by pgkdan (ANYBODY BUT OBAMA!)
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...the presidential campaign of Mormon Church founder Joseph Smith in 1844: “Challenging Democrat James Polk and Whig Henry Clay, Smith prophesied that if the U.S. Congress did not accede to his demands that ‘they shall be broken up as a government and God shall damn them.’

Smith viewed capturing the presidency as part of the mission of the church.

4 posted on 07/23/2012 9:56:13 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: cuban leaf
Once Romney wins the election I expect him to do for Mormonisme kinda what Obama has done for black causes: Set it back a few decades.

I dunno, evil has a funny way of staying a float.

5 posted on 07/23/2012 9:57:00 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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bigot


The Doctrine and Covenants

Section 132

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded 12 July 1843, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the marriage covenant, and also the plurality of wives (see History of the Church, 5:501–7). Although the revelation was recorded in 1843, it is evident from the historical records that the doctrines and principles involved in this revelation had been known by the Prophet since 1831.

1–6, Exaltation is gained through the new and everlasting covenant; 7–14, The terms and conditions of that covenant are set forth; 15–20, Celestial marriage and a continuation of the family unit enable men to become gods; 21–25, The strait and narrow way leads to eternal lives; 26–27, The law is given relative to blasphemy against the Holy Ghost; 28–39, Promises of eternal increase and exaltation are made to prophets and Saints in all ages; 40–47, Joseph Smith is given the power to bind and seal on earth and in heaven; 48–50, The Lord seals upon him his exaltation; 51–57, Emma Smith is counseled to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.

 


 

 16Therefore, when they are out of the world they neither marry nor are given in amarriage; but are appointed angels in bheaven, which angels are ministering cservants, to minister for those who are worthy of a far more, and an exceeding, and an eternal weight of glory.

 17For these angels did not abide my law; therefore, they cannot be enlarged, but remain separately and singly, without exaltation, in their saved condition, to all eternity; and from henceforth are not gods, but are aangels of God forever and ever.

 18And again, verily I say unto you, if a man marry a wife, and make a covenant with her for time and for all eternity, if that acovenant is not by me or by my word, which is my law, and is not sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, through him whom I have anointed and appointed unto this power, then it is not valid neither of force when they are out of the world, because they are not joined by me, saith the Lord, neither by my word; when they are out of the world it cannot be received there, because the angels and the gods are appointed there, by whom they cannot pass; they cannot, therefore, inherit my glory; for my house is a house of order, saith the Lord God.

 19And again, verily I say unto you, if a man amarry a wife by my word, which is my law, and by the new and beverlasting covenant, and it is csealed unto them by the Holy Spirit of dpromise, by him who is anointed, unto whom I have appointed this power and the ekeys of this priesthood; and it shall be said unto them—Ye shall come forth in the first resurrection; and if it be after the first resurrection, in the next resurrection; and shall inherit fthrones, kingdoms, principalities, and powers, dominions, all heights and depths—then shall it be written in the Lamb’s gBook of Life, that he shall commit no hmurder whereby to shed innocent iblood, and if ye abide in my covenant, and commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, it shall be done unto them in all things whatsoever my servant hath put upon them, in time, and through all eternity; and shall be of full force when they are out of the world; and they shall pass by the angels, and the gods, which are set there, to their jexaltation and glory in all things, as hath been sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a fulness and a continuation of the kseeds forever and ever.

 20 Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from aeverlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be bgods, because they have call power, and the angels are subject unto them.

 21Verily, verily, I say unto you, except ye abide my alaw ye cannot attain to this glory.

 22For astrait is the gate, and narrow the bway that leadeth unto the exaltation and continuation of the clives, and few there be that find it, because ye receive me not in the world neither do ye know me.

 23But if ye receive me in the world, then shall ye know me, and shall receive your exaltation; that awhere I am ye shall be also.

 24This is aeternal lives—to bknow the only wise and true God, and Jesus Christ, whom he hath csent. I am he. Receive ye, therefore, my law.

 25aBroad is the gate, and wide the way that leadeth to the bdeaths; and many there are that go in thereat, because they creceive me not, neither do they abide in my law.


6 posted on 07/23/2012 9:57:46 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: dragonblustar

Yeah, and in the end it will appear to be winning before God settles it once and for all.


7 posted on 07/23/2012 9:59:54 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Elsie
Smith viewed capturing the presidency as part of the mission of the church.

He viewed the presidency like an under age girl.... Couldn't wait to get his hands on it.

8 posted on 07/23/2012 10:00:18 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: cuban leaf

I agree.


9 posted on 07/23/2012 10:01:54 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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OMG!

"The 'MORMONS' are coming; the Mormons are coming!"

Hide the children; get out your "magic underwear" or whatever that is everyone keeps bringing up about some of Mormonism quirks.

Oh, and did you know that "Mormons" were responsible for a "Massacre" (Mountain Meadows) ah, never mind it happened once and it was 155 years ago...!

When someone can show me where Mormons call for Global Hegemony and "Forced Conversions" until there is but "One" religion (Mormonism) and any of their members advance "Honor Killings," "Death for Apostasy...or even criticizing the Book of Mormons or Joseph Smith," or advocate the Constitution being replaced by the tenets of Mormonism; etc. then, I'll begin to be "concerned."

10 posted on 07/23/2012 10:02:31 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet
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The lds-org denies that Jesus is the Creator, that everything was created THROUGH Him, BY Him and FOR Him.

They deny that Jesus created even the angels out of nothing.

They do NOT teach the truth about Jesus.

11 posted on 07/23/2012 10:02:58 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: cuban leaf
Once Romney wins the election I expect him to do for Mormonisme kinda what Obama has done for black causes: Set it back a few decades.

Perhaps in membership numbers in the US. The mormon missionary program is worldwide.

The point of this post is that trading Romney for Obama will just be trading masters...the power will shift to 12 old white men in Salt Lake City. Mitt and most of his fellow temple-worthy co-religionists have taken this oath in ceremonies in mormon temples:

You and each of you covenant and promise before God, angels, and these witnesses at this altar, that you do accept the Law of Consecration as contained in the Doctrine and Covenants, in that you do consecrate yourselves, your time, talents, and everything with which the Lord has blessed you, or with which he may bless you, to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, for the building up of the Kingdom of God on the earth and for the establishment of Zion.

13 posted on 07/23/2012 10:06:13 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Jim Robinson re Romney: "HeÂ’s a cartoonish fraud. A caricature in progress." Dittos)
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They deny that Jesus created even the angels out of nothing.

I guess the Jews also deny it but for some reason there's not as much fear and loathing about them. There are also probably other "Christian" denominations who exlicitly or implicitly deny this would be my guess.

14 posted on 07/23/2012 10:07:16 AM PDT by bkepley
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Well, the muslims had a chance and blew it. Might as well give the Mormons a shot.


15 posted on 07/23/2012 10:08:22 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded 12 July 1843,

1843?

Did you forget to include the "Mountain Meadows Massacre" (1857)?

Gee, I don't suppose you can come up with any examples of Mormons who follow, advance and preach Smith's words and tenets (LITERALLY) today?

No doubt you have some quotes by Mitt Romney which shows he support Smith's declarations and adheres thereto?

16 posted on 07/23/2012 10:08:52 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet
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bigot.

Bigotry is 52,000 mormon missionaries going out every day worldwide knocking on the doors of Christians and proclaiming their Christian faith is bogus, and the only way to gain salvation is to be baptized and confirmed mormon and to take part in rituals in mormon temples.

17 posted on 07/23/2012 10:09:01 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Jim Robinson re Romney: "HeÂ’s a cartoonish fraud. A caricature in progress." Dittos)
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Same kind of attack the Left used to launch against the Moral Majority three decades ago.

“You don’t want to live under a dictatorship of religious zealots, do you? They’ll take away your Budweiser, your porn and your condoms...”


18 posted on 07/23/2012 10:11:52 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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That’s easier isn't it...
19 posted on 07/23/2012 10:12:10 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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Conservative Vermont Vet:
" Oh, and did you know that "Mormons" were responsible for a "Massacre" (Mountain Meadows) ah, never mind it happened once and it was 155 years ago...!"

So after accusing EVERYONE of being antiMormon,
YOU celebrate the Meadow Mountain Massacre, making light
of it. Do tell.

It was an atrocity like 911.
Yet YOUR CANDIDATE supports the 911 Victory Mosque.

Is there also a Meadow Mountain Massacre Victory Mosque?

20 posted on 07/23/2012 10:13:26 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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