Posted on 07/21/2012 7:23:50 AM PDT by Colofornian
They sure made a big point that he was a GOP activist, which has nothing to do with his crimes. I hope they throw away the key and make sure this scum never sees the light of day again. He is one small step from a serial killer in my opinion.
“So you claim that the official Mormon church, which officially owns KSL and produced this article, is guilty of “severe liberal media bias?””
No, that is not what I was claiming, I’m claiming the journalist Pat Reavy is guilty of it. I also couldn’t believe that you were seriously accusing fellow posters of trying to protect a rapist’s reputation because they pointed out bias in the repeated and insignificant references to the GOP. I see you were because you again accused someone of siding with the rapist further down the thread. Your accusation is repulsive.
Not all GOP activists are rapists.
Go back to Du where those filled with hate reside.
Who made the claim they were?
(You're addressing a straw man argument nobody has claimed)
But for the one who appears to be such a rapist, you're not standing by his side as his advocate, are you?
Should we not condemn rape?
Should we not stand by the victims?
Where are your words of advocacy for the victims?
Why do we only see apparent advocacy for this accused rapist?
This all comes across quite striking as to where your priorities lie (so please address those priorities). Because you're giving off a few hints that your priorities lie with protecting the reputation of GOP activists.
(And if you're going to keep the focus of this thread only on the political links of this story...vs. the criminal justice component and the compassion on behalf of the victims... how is that going to come across to undecided female posters and lurkers reading this thread?)
Per the Deseret News -- which is also owned by the Lds church (many of the DesNews writers' copy winds up @ KSL):
Pat is a police and crime reporter. He interned at KSL Radio in 1989. He was hired by KSL Radio for a part-time position in 1991 and later a full-time position a couple of months later. Pat was hired by the Deseret News in 2000.
Source: Pat Reavy
So Pat Reavy has been employed by either DesNews or KSL for over 20 years. Almost ALL of their long-time journalists -- at least those still with them -- are Mormons...most are conservative Lds.
Do you see how silly you look making unwarranted accusations?
I also couldn’t believe that you were seriously accusing fellow posters of trying to protect a rapist’s reputation because they pointed out bias in the repeated and insignificant references to the GOP
IF that is their ONLY reaction to this story, then, YES, it provides key hints that tends to give off the fragrance of their priorities.
Rktman's post #3 was somebody who -- in his/her very first words -- showed concern for the victims ("Prayers for them for sure") He then went on to express his concerns about GoP references.
I think that was balanced.
In stark contrast, we see people coming onto this thread without nary a concern about either the victims or stating ANYTHING negative about the perpetrator. And their LONE expressive interest seems to be ONLY political -- how it effects the GoP reputation.
That is expressed advocacy for BOTH the GoP AND the rapist.
Where's the balance? Why can't more posters -- like rktman -- at least acknowledge the victims here? When a Holmes thread is posted, ya better believe much of the comments are negative toward the perp from a criminal justice angle.
Yet surprisingly whenever we see Mormon perp stories, there's ALWAYS a cadre of Mormon allies who come on board...100% neglect the victims...100% neglect saying ONE THING NEGATIVE about the perp...and then they proceed to either try to protect MormonISM as a system...or, in the case of this particular thread, try to protect the GoP political system reputation (and/or Romney).
It's frankly quite pathetic. And if this is the "compassion" GoP people display toward female victims of sexual violence, 'tis yet ANOTHER reason I will be leaving the GoP once Romney is officially nominated...and will advocate that OTHERS prayerfully consider doing so as well. (But please: Don't anybody become a Democrat...which is much worse)
You disgust me. I don’t know what your problem is with Mormons but you are so obsessive that you would probably post an article about a Mormon’s second cousin doing something illegal if it suited your agenda.
And it’s clever of you to post your news items in the religion forum. You’re immune from personal attacks here.
Why not be a big boy and post them in the news forum where the grownups hang out?
YOU are accusing other freepers of using strawmen...
YOU are accusing other freepers of unfounded accusations...
YOU are accusing other freepers of being silly...
And YOU are sitting in judgement of other freepers moral values...
Goodbye, have a nice evening.
Well...let's see...per the article: A GOP activist who prosecutors say kidnapped and raped women that he met online and...
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Hey, Chuck, I tried to help your discernment level with the all caps and extra-large font.
You see, when a story mentions...
...the Lds church three times...
...an Lds temple recommend...
...a Mormon missionary who served his mission in Venezuela...
...that he targeted LDS women...
...an Lds singles Web site (twice)..
...along with another Lds specific Web site...
...then it qualifies for the
[Tell us, Chuck, have you been consistent and ever complain about even ONE of those Roman Catholic abuse stories winding up on the RELIGION section? No? Why not?]
OH...and another article on Peterson also said he attended the Mormon school, BYU.
Bottom line, Chuck: I don't need your "permission" to put an article with at least nine specific religious references in the "Religion" section just because, per your level of discernment, you don't quite think it qualified as being "religious" enough...
Post #28 applies to you as well...
You are such a chicken. Post your news articles in the news forum rather than hiding behind the protection of the religion forum.
NoLibZone said: "Not all GOP activists are rapists." -- and I simply requested him to name any single post or poster on this thread who made such an accusation!
So...I was merely responding to NoLibZone's accusation (#23) that somebody here was coloring all GoP activists as rapists.
Get your accusation ducks in order...here...Or, since you've now come to NoLibZone's defense, are YOU now echoing NoLibZone's accusation? Which post? Which poster? Or is it the article itself?
YOU are accusing other freepers of being silly...
Well, yes, you are...You claimed in post#12 -- which you clarified in post #22 as to whom who were talking about -- that a 20+ year journalist of the Lds church owned KSL/DesNews was "guilty" of "blatant, severe liberal media bias".
Any Mormons or those in Utah want to go on the record with any info that ANY of the Lds church owned media journalists are "blatant, severe liberals?"
YOU are accusing other freepers of unfounded accusations...
Well, don't just accuse away with a generic accusation (Prove it!)
And YOU are sitting in judgement of other freepers moral values...
Which means YOU are sitting in judgment of my moral values expressed on this thread -- something you just accused me of...If that is so bad, then don't ever accuse Obama of doing anything immoral...or don't accuse the pro-abort people of doing anything immoral...and stop making such accusations yourself...because you've just refuted yourself in doing the exact thing you accuse me of!
What are we to do...Listen to what you preach ("Don't" discern "moral values of others") ... Or what you practice (judging my moral values)????
I DID post two news articles today -- one on this very Peterson story Romney, Utah politicians denounce accused rapist's actions [the other story was: Former Boy Scout leader sent to prison for making child porn].
I haven't seen your comments in siding with the perps on those threads yet...What? Were you just ignorant these were posted in the News section; or is it a courage shortfall issue on your part????
Please...go bump those threads and express your perp advocacy there!!!
What in the heck are you talking about? perp advocacy? That comment makes no sense.
Kudos for posting some of you anti-Mormon threads in news. This one belongs there too. Thanks for your time.
Nobody?
Where do you live in a vacuum?
I genuinely believe you are ill and don’t think it would serve either one of us to continue the discussion.
Best wishes to you.
Who said they were?
Name names if that is the case.
Go back to Du?
What is that an ice cream parlor?
I have an idea, why not dispute the evidence presented that this GOP activist, who is a mormon. is not a rapist as shown.
Is he not a GOP activist is that part of the story incorrect?
Is he not a mormon is that part of the story incorrect?
Are the authors of the story not an lds owned conglomerate?
Just which part is incorrect that would apparently cause such agitation on your part?
Are you as agitated when stories are posted about Catholics, Baptist or say Lutherans are posted?
Is this a special case because a particular candidate you maybe supporting also happens to have the same belief system?
Why is it that this apparently bothers you above all else?
Hum?
Jane one has to wonder what your problem is with posting articles about rapists who are identified many times by his religion in the story in the religion forum.
If you have a problem with the category ask the admins to move it somewhere else.
The larger question is why you are apparently focused on the poster of the thread and not the victims of the crime directly and the black mark it leaves on the GOP.
Where is your concern for the people involved?
It seems that you could do one of several things if you chose, either re-post in the news section or find a related story and post it in the news section or complain to the admins to move the story.......by just posting and complaining is really not very adult like.
Jean, you are interesting.
There have been four (maybe more) stories posted in various threads about perps, yet you seem to be only focused on the poster not the victims who apparently are mostly mormons.
Why is that?
Go ahead and continue your false accusations, false conclusions, and ad hominen personal attacks, that’s all that’s in your hostile arsenal.
Oooh, colofornian has backup. Good for him.
I have no time for you, thanks for your input and have a nice day.
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