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To: verga; tsowellfan; RightOnline; SaraJohnson; goldi; Future Snake Eater; NEW YORKCITYGOPMAN; ...
....bigotry and hypocrisy you call it “Alynsky tactics....
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Oh! Wow! Now we can add “bigotry, Alinsky tactics, and hypocrisy” to the list.

Owellian Newspeak: Truth= bullying, ignorance, foolishness, thin skinned, canned response. bigotry, Alinsky tactics, and hypocrisy

**WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE OF ALL THOSE SO-CALLED “GOOD” TEACHERS PROTESTING THIS??????!!!!!**

Prove that this article is wrong. Where are the studies and articles? The professional teachers on Free Republic should be able to link to these studies in an instant. It's their** profession**. I would think that professional teachers would be on the cutting edge of these issues.

Yeah! I am shouting. Nearly every day there are comments from the government school defenders insisting that most government teachers are “good” and don't support this. Well...Where are these “good” teachers? It's their **PROFESSION** for heaven's sake! Why aren't they out there defending their profession and the children that they claim to love so much? Where are the articles that show these unicorn-like “good” teachers protesting? Where are their websites and organizations?

Instead of well reasoned posts from the government school defenders we get snarky comments about “bullying, ignorance, foolishness, thin skinnedness, canned responses” ( and, now, bigotry,Alinsky tactics, and hypocrisy) directed at the people who are concerned about the corruption of the minds and spirits of out nation's children.

But....Hey! I personally know that as **professionals** the government teachers would never be snide with their students. They would**always** stick to the issue and defend their position with solid statistics and links and **never** dismiss a student with accusations of “bullying, ignorance, foolishness, thin skinnedness, canned responses, ( and, now, bigotry, Alinsky tactics, and hypocrisy”. Nope! A **professional** teacher would **never** do that. ( No sarc tag)

And,,,,Again...Thanks, verga, for bring this topic on the promotion in the government schools of the very dangerous perversion of homosexuality to the top of the latest articles list. It also gives me a chance to respond and to, again, bring this **HORRIFIC** practice to the attention of Freepers who may still have their kids in the government cesspools of depravity ( misnamed “public” schools).

Geeze! A few more articles like this one and taxpayers will soon associate “public” school with “public” restrooms.

28 posted on 07/22/2012 6:49:53 AM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: wintertime; tsowellfan; RightOnline; SaraJohnson; goldi; Future Snake Eater; NEW YORKCITYGOPMAN; ...
But....Hey! I personally know that as **professionals** the government teachers would never be snide with their students. They would**always** stick to the issue and defend their position with solid statistics and links and **never** dismiss a student with accusations of “bullying, ignorance, foolishness, thin skinnedness, canned responses, ( and, now, bigotry, Alinsky tactics, and hypocrisy”. Nope! A **professional** teacher would **never** do that. ( No sarc tag)

Please note that it is wintertime who is resorting to this "Alynsky tactic."

He has never once set foot in my classroom, has never seen me teach nor seen any of the prep work I do on a daily basis. He has never seen any of my interactions with students or their parents. To the best of my knowledge he has never once taught more than one or two of his own children at the high school level at a time, never mind the 20 to thirty that most of us teach. I also understand that he has never taught at the college level. His posts are made in total ignorance, save the single incidence that defines his own pitiful parenting skills. I have offered this person a list of students that he can in under his wing and demonstrate the magic powers of home schooling, and never gotten a single reply.

He has regularly ignored the fact that I and almost every other public school teacher on the FR site agrees that he system does need repair. Rather than making positive comments old winterboy continues with the snide comments about what "**professional**" teachers would and would never do. Rather than engage in legitimate debate he continually resorts to emotional arguments referring to the "Prussian model" in an attempt to make the system seem like some sort of Russian gulag system.

Over the years he has suggested that the public school teachers union be disbanded. When I asked him about the similar unions for police and firefighters I never received a reply.

Further on a previous thread one of winters truly "enlightened" fans advocated violence against a public school person. Several of us begged him to distance himself from these comments, he refused even after the mods deleted those comments.

Now I am certain that this post will draw the ire of the "great and powerful" wintertime and he will make a snide comment about Alynsky tactics for telling the truth about his history and behavior. I am also certain that he will again thank me for "moving this up in the post" oblivious to the fact that it really only appears moved up on the list of people pinged.

I truly hope that some of the more "mainstream" home school supporters whisper in wintertime's ear that he is doing your cause no good and is instead relegating this cause to the "fringe kook" corner.

29 posted on 07/22/2012 2:25:09 PM PDT by verga (Every single cult leader has believed in Home schooling, think about it.)
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