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To: chessplayer

The guy was an idiot for opening the door with a weapon at the ready. The cops were idiots for not identifying themselves. IMHO, they are both at fault.

There is just no good to be found here. The lesson I get is don’t open the door and don’t let the cops in once they ID themselves unless they have a warrant.

The mentality of the no knock warrant is going to lead to more of this sort of thing as overstretched cops try to deal with the ruthless gangbangers Obama lets in this country to garner as many votes, legal or illegal, as possible. They are just the unwanted dross that comes with the more well behaved new Socialist voting bloc.

More citizens will arm themselves and treat every unannounced contact as a potential deadly threat. Cops will stretch the rules as much as possible to get “tactical advantage” to try and live through another shift, and in the end, the government will demand that we disarm to keep this sort of thing from happening.

I don’t see a way out of the spiral.


9 posted on 07/17/2012 9:00:54 PM PDT by M1911A1
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To: M1911A1

Cops acting ‘tactically’ have to expect to be treated as a tactical threat. Someone knocking on my door at 2 AM will need to do something other than knock and bluster to get in. No cop car, no trust on my part. And I mean a MARKED cop car, not some POS with grill lights!


11 posted on 07/17/2012 9:09:47 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberalism: "Ex faslo quodlibet" - from falseness, anything follows)
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To: M1911A1

What you said. Well done IMHO.


12 posted on 07/17/2012 9:20:57 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: M1911A1
More citizens will arm themselves and treat every unannounced contact as a potential deadly threat. Cops will stretch the rules as much as possible to get “tactical advantage” to try and live through another shift, and in the end, the government will demand that we disarm to keep this sort of thing from happening.

I don’t see a way out of the spiral.

Here's a way out. When told to disarm, don't disarm. Treat anyone trying to disarm you as a mortal threat. What do you think?

14 posted on 07/17/2012 9:29:30 PM PDT by Ken H
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