Posted on 07/17/2012 5:41:06 PM PDT by jazusamo
Freedom not to associate is an important American right
In the Boy Scout oath, a young man promises to keep himself morally straight. Despite pressure from homosexual activists, that pledge will continue to mean something.
On Tuesday, the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) announced that they would retain their policy excluding homosexuals from membership and leadership positions. The announcement followed a two-year review by a select committee, which came to the unanimous conclusion that it was “absolutely the best policy for the Boy Scouts.”
The rule had come under fire from homosexual groups recently after Jennifer Tyrrell was forced out of the leadership of her son’s Tiger Scout den because she is a lesbian. Also, last weekend, Eric Jones, a 19-year-old Eagle Scout, was fired from being a counselor at a Boy Scout camp in Missouri after revealing his homosexual preference.
Homosexual activists claim this is discrimination, but the dispute is actually over the freedom to associate. This was made plain in the 2000 Supreme Court case, Boy Scouts of America v. Dale, which directly addressed the scouts’ policy. The high court held that a New Jersey public-accommodations law did not require BSA to reinstate a homosexual assistant scoutmaster since that application of the law conflicted with the First Amendment right of freedom of association.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
Our Scoutmaster and Assistant Scoutmaster are both men--as they absolutely should be. Our Outdoor Activities Chair is a man. Our Troop Chaplain is a man. Our Rank Advancement Chair is a man. The remaining positions--Charter Organization Rep, Fundraising Chair, Secretary, Treasurer, and Adult Committee Chair are women. These roles are all support roles for the male adult committee members and have very little to do at all with the Scouts, outside of occasional updates. You don't think it's a good idea for Scouts to see women supporting men? That would be funny if it weren't so pathetic.
You mentioned your recent attendance at a Scout event in which you were horrified to see women involved...were you so horrified that you contacted your local BSA Council to find out how you can get involved in Scouting? No, I didn't think so. Just keep talking the talk there, tough guy. It's easy to be a strong male role model on the internet, isn't it? God bless.
Time to kick James S. Turley and any other cultural polluters off the Board! The Boy Scouts don't need them.
I would like the straight poop on Romney’s involvement in any decision involving the rejection of Scouts’ involvement in the Olympics.
But it’s extremely nebulous, difficult to pin down, who exactly, made the decision. Probably by design in anticipation of the blowback they’d get.
The second article brings up some excellent points about the hypocrisy of the decision, citing pre-teen athletes allowed to compete, but Scouts not able to support.
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2000/12/15/214301.shtml
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/2/7/135258.shtml
Congrats to the dad and son in your troop receiving the Eagle Award.
I agree with you in principle that strong males should be the role models, but the reality is much different in many regions of the USA.
Not every Troop has the benefit of strong male role models available to fill leadership roles.
I have a few “dads” in my Troop who want ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with Scouting. Their sons are in, but they aren’t.
Our Troop will accept any parent/adult who is willing to support in any capacity in which they are able.
Yes, men should be in the leadership roles, but women also fill valuable roles as well.
To advocate that BSA NOT sanction a Troop simply because it’s not an all male club is extreme and I disagree with your position. The program can succeed regardless of what sex is involved as long as they are offering the program as intended.
I’ve known some women Scout leaders who are far superior to their male counterparts. They “bleed” BSA green and are wholly bought into the program. That’s the reality.
Damn right! As a father of a Eagle Scout I'll back you up on that one.
As for you newzjunky,if you where trapped in a burning car my son would be the first to risk his life to save your SORRY ASS.
Actually, they stayed that way because of the lawyers. If they allowed gay scoutmasters and they molested someone, it would be a legal “I told you so” case which always win big. Although it hurts the BSA with pro-gays, it saves them money in the long run.
BTTT to your posts.
My experiences and I’m sure the experiences of many others differ greatly from yours.
I’ll leave it at that since saying anything further about the detritus you posted would not be in agreement with the Scout Oath and Law.
Damn right! As a father of a Eagle Scout I'll back you up on that one.
As for you newzjunky,if you where trapped in a burning car my son would be the first to risk his life to save your SORRY ASS.
It’s already started on the BSA FB page. Every photo comment has been hijacked by pro homosexual activists who go on and on about “bigotry,” “hatred,” etc. Like the Psalmists I wonder out loud (knowing that I’m a sinner) why the Lord allows these people to prosper and multiply.
Do you mean, in the B.S.A.? What rings were these? (Didn't hear about them at the time ...... but then, given the gay media campaign kicking off in the 80's with Madsen & Kirk, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.
The men I know who were abused as boys never reported the crimes. They were too ashamed and afraid and did not even talk about it until they were around 50. I don’t think most boys and men usually report it because they don’t want to deal with the pain. It’s best to tell, though, because it can really mess with a man’s heart, mind and life.
The scouts had perverts all across the country within the scouts and they shared with their perv friends outside the scouts. The abuse centered around overnight events like jamborees and summer camps.
Thanks for making my point that more men should be involved in Scouting. By the way, while I am presently nearing 70 and physically unable to help, I put 20 years into Scouting in my youth, which is certainly more than most. In the 50’s and 60’s it was 100% male in the two troops I was affiliated with. I know that times change; but, in my opinion, not necessarily for the better. God bless.
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