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To: rdcbn

rdcbn: “This really is a big effen’ deal and breaks the case open if anyone can be found to pursue it.”

IMHO, the even bigger deal than what you described is that Zullo essentially stated that any birth certificate from Hawaii may be only Prima Facie evidence. Hence none of the data received by the HDOH was EVER verified and that secondary sources MUST be used to prove in a court of law that the subject was born in Hawaii. In other words, all Hawaiian birth certificates are only worth the paper they are printed on...

So we all need to stop harping on Hawaii to produce the original because even if they did, it would prove nothing (except maybe that the one released by Obama was not from them).


642 posted on 07/17/2012 7:27:29 PM PDT by visually_augmented (I was blind, but now I see)
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To: visually_augmented
This has always been the case with the BC presented by the Obama Administration.

It clearly states that this is an “abstracted document”. I did research at the time on the meaning of “abstracted document” for a birth certificate and it can be a collection or compilation of information from any number of sources.

Based on my research, an “abstracted birth certificate” is virtually worthless as an official document and cannot be used to verify identity for a drivers license, passport or many other official purposes.

650 posted on 07/17/2012 7:42:04 PM PDT by rdcbn
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