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To: ctdonath2
"The Right is overreacting to this and missing a key point:"

Wrong! The right is undereacting. And yes, we listened to every word the communist said. He along with his other memes, has declared war on America. He has initiated class warfare as was taught to us in 60's/70's.

Its pure Marxism. Every breath of it.

Yes one pays for services of others and all that But WHO took the risks?

Decisions have consequences! Risk vs Reward!

What we have here once again is mass failure of common sense!

26 posted on 07/17/2012 6:23:03 AM PDT by saywhatagain
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To: saywhatagain
I agree with everything posted here and other places about Obie's Socialist/Communist proclivities.

Considering that on top of all, that is a white hating race baiter. "You" is also a euphemism for "whitey" and Obama is suggesting that successful people get where they are by virtue of their skin color. (never mind that good ideas and hard work are color blind).

32 posted on 07/17/2012 6:32:54 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Too many thinking Freepers have left the building...)
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To: saywhatagain
What I meant by "overreacting" is the prolific outright negation of the notion that others were, indeed, involved - recurring commentary that "nobody else helped". We need to acknowledge that yes, others were involved and few businesses were created without help - and that what Marxist Obama is missing is everyone who helped was duly compensated and that whatever extra value was produced beyond the sum of the parts belongs to the one who arranged those parts. I'm cautioning against clinging to a total negation of a statement which has a fragment of truth: accept the truth, then show the correct extrapolation.

You write "yes one pays for services and all that" - indeed! and whatever value is created beyond what is paid for belongs to the one(s) who organized and laid claim to that new value. Risk is certainly one part, but even if there was no appreciable risk, whatever value is created belongs to the one who invoked the process.

If I buy a bucket of paint and a canvas for $20, throw them together (be "throw" akin to Pollock or Da Vinci), and sell the result for a $1,000,000 then the value created (confirmed by the truism "a thing is worth what another pays for it"); yes others were involved by creating the paint & canvas, yes they were duly compensated for their part by accepting $20 in exchange for their products, and yes the risk may have been negligible, and - my point - nobody else has any right to the $999,980 profit.

Problem is that Marxists & Leftists believe wealth merely exists in fixed quantity, is durable, and may be rearranged without limit; they do not comprehend that wealth must be created, is not durable, and must be consumed to realize its value. The Obama's comment belies this error, claiming everyone involved should get a cut of the wealth as though it is simply what they put in - not realizing that they got out value in fairness to what they put in, it's someone else who created new value for themselves.

45 posted on 07/17/2012 6:57:37 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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