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To: OldNavyVet

Vet- I havew read thbose similar arguments, and it is clear that these folks are glossing over the FACT that while the ‘interstate commerce clause’ argument hasw beren shut down by roberts (tyhankfully) roberts opened an even bigger gaping hole for the left to drive their constitution destroying tanks through

Will said “If the mandate had been upheld under the Commerce Clause, the court would have decisively construed this clause so permissively as to give Congress an essentially unlimited police power”

True- but now they have an EVEN BIGGER loophole to operate their intrusive powers under- roberts gave them the ability to simply reenact obummercare whenever the left regains power in the government- Had roberts upheld ALL the constitution- He would have shut down the commerce clause argument once and for all AND ALSO made sure that the rule was deemed UNCONSTUTIONAL (not yelling- just stressign key poitns)

Roberts just gave ouyr government the ‘right’ to dictate to us what is ‘healthy and prudent for us’ and he gave them the ‘right’ to fine us IF we choose NOT to participate in the government’s mandates- Thuis IS a VERY slippery slope- and it has opened up the door for our government to declare a mandate for all of us to eat brocolli because science shows thaT brocolli prevents certain cancers, AND the government can now further ‘justify’ their arguments for the intrusive mandates by claimign that IF we choose NOT to eat brocolli, then we are putting undue financial burderns o nthe public because we ‘MIGHT’ end up i nthe hospital for long term cancer care, and so we ‘Must be fiend’ for refusing to eat said brocoli

I know this sounds rediculous- and soem might say “Oh, the government would never be so bold as to enact such mandates” Well it already has enacted such a mandate with the obummercare, and htis is just the beginning, because now roberts has opened up a HUGE avenue for the government to ‘collect fines’ through penalties on those who ‘choose not to participate’ in government mandated edicts and services

Soime say “Well roberts ‘forced the left to admit obummercare is a tax’” Yeah? Since when did the left ever run away from taxing citizens? the left isn’t afraid of this beign called a tax- hell- they love taxes- roberts just gave them a HUGE gift and opened up doors for taxation that were prebviously closed to them thanks to our constitution (which is now beign eroded aqway bit by bit)

There is now a 3.8% tax on ‘the rich’ when they sell a house and ‘gain over $500,000 off the sale- this isn’;t getting much coiverage- but our government is apaprently now ‘taxing’/fining people for just being rich- and now they are goign to be going after everyoen with further taxes simply for breathing and existing-

Our Supreme court MUST uphold our constitution- it MUST stop this unprecedented expansion and intrusion of and by our government into our lives-

George will never addressed the FACT that now- thanks to roberts- the left has the power to tax us for ANYTHING they want and to do so under the guise that it is ‘in everyone’
s best itnerest’ that these new taxes be enacted/mandated

As I said before our ONLY hope is to have thsi brought BACK BEFORE the Supreme court, and have the word ‘taxes’ precisely defined and also to define just how far our government can go in taxing the citizens when these taxes turn out to be FINES for simply being alive

Before roberts slit hte throat of america, the ONLY thing we as citizens HAD TO DO was die- that’s it- that was he ONLY mandatory thing we HAD TO DO- Now however- WE MUST buy our government’s health care OR pay a FINE for choosing NOT to purchase goernment run healthcare or else we will be deemed criminals for nionpayment (either of the obummercare, or of the fine) IF someone doesn’t pay the IRS- they are deemed criminals- Now- IF someone doesn’t pay the thugs in government- they are deemed crinminals

One more point (sorry htis is so long-) The Mafia used to walk up and down the streets- stopping in every store and business and tell them “Buy our insurance OR ELSE!!!” Guess what? It was ILLEGAL for them to do that- why? Because you could NOT FORCE ANYONE to buy
ANYTHING they didn’t want to buy before- But now our government has taken over the position that that hte mafia once held, but hte only difference is that they got roberts to tell them it was now legal for them, our government, to FORCE peopel to buy the insurance OR ELSE!!!”

Geoge will never even addressed any of this in his article- Look up Mark Levine’s article or podcast or whatever o nthe ruling- He makes soem very valid poionts abotu htese subjects I’ve been discussing (I haven’t actually heard or read his commentary on it yet- but have heard snippets)


45 posted on 07/29/2012 9:08:26 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop
I know this sounds rediculous- and soem might say “Oh, the government would never be so bold as to enact such mandates” Well it already has enacted such a mandate with the obummercare, and htis is just the beginning, because now roberts has opened up a HUGE avenue for the government to ‘collect fines’ through penalties on those who ‘choose not to participate’ in government mandated edicts and services

Cott, you're right about this issue being horrendous; but I think that Roberts is telling Americans that ... "Congress, not the court, has the power to make law. You get what you vote for. And ... Brother, you asked for it."

In other words, Roberts is essentially telling us that an election is how bad law gets fixed.

47 posted on 07/29/2012 9:52:50 AM PDT by OldNavyVet
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