RUSH - Condoleezza Rice, Morality and Perspective [ spoke on sitting out election ]

On a final note regarding Romney. This is something Jim Robinson wrote today:

“If you are a pro-life, pro-family, pro-liberty, small government conservative you would see that he is most definitely as bad as Obama. What part of Romney’s godless liberal progessivism, abortionism, homosexualism, statism, gun grabbing, big government socialism is less evil than Obama’s?”

Dear lady....you are out of sync here. We conservatives are tired of having the GOPe push country club republicans on us. We are the rebelion. Our goal is higher than merely stopping Obama, we are about establishing conservatism. We will NEVER get this backing Romney. As just JR just said, what part of him is less evil than Obama? It is a rhetorical question....there is NO PART.

The social issues are important, and many of us hold them dear, but the vast majority of American voters will ignore them, if their main concern is finding a job to put food on their tables.

I could not disagree more. More Americans than you think do indeed care about social issues. Issues of morality aren’t just about “sex”, people without a moral compass also commit graft, bribery, and all manner of fiduciary corruption due to unbridled greed and not having any conscience. The very foundation of human civilization has to be morality. The only other option is might. If there is no general acceptance and support of personal morality, a country quickly devolves into worse than robber baronism, and that is what we are seeing now.

You ever heard “man does not live by bread alone”? This is not a sectarian belief, but the simple universal truth. A human with a full belly, a warm bed, clothes and a roof over his head is an animal if he has no morality.

Divorcing social conservatism from fiscal conservatism is not only not possible, but loses elections. Why do the social conservatives always have to compromise, back down, give up, and let the hedonist “money is the only important thing” Republicans have their way with us? Why can’t THEY compromise with US? THEY FREAKING LOSE ELECTIONS!!!

Romney is already so far from conservative positions the only thing left of him is 0bastard. You think he’s wildly different from 0bastard on financial issues? To me, Romney appears to be a corporatist guy who wants to make money even if it is shady - from what I’ve read, some of his investments or connections have had to do with aborted baby disposal, Merriot hotels which showed (or maybe still do) porn in the TVs in the hotel, and another thing that escapes my memory. His positions on conservative social issues are so liberal, and any positions he takes “now” that appear conserative, appear as so much pandering.

He is utterly loathesome and so much worse even than McCain that just thinking and writing this causes my gorge to rise.

You asked me about a previous comment that I planned on voting for Romney.

I'm really fighting the urge to use a sarcastic remark here but I won't. Did you read what this thread is about?!?!? Romney putting a pro abortion candidate on the ticket with him!

That's quite a difference than 2 weeks ago. He previously said his running mate would be pro life. He might as well just come out and say that he has changed his position on the issue because if you truly believe that abortion is the taking of an innocent life, then you certainly couldn't put a person on the ticket with you someone who thinks it's ok to take an innocent life. And as I said, if a pro abortion Republican candidate wins, then there is no putting that genie back in the bottle. So if you care about that issue, a stand has to be made. Hopefully it's a Drudge hoax and Rice is not being considered.

So, you can kiss that off. Look, and I say this gently...you have been in Mass too long and your perspective is warped by what you are surrounded with. Romney WAS NOT a good governor...not on social or fiscal matters. He wasn’t really a good businessman either. He was a vulture capitalist. Anything good that came out of Bain was in spite of Romney, not because of him. He just provided the capital.

My perspective doesn't have any thing to do with Massachusetts. I simply do not want Obama anywhere NEAR the Oval Office after Inauguration Day, 2013.

We can work hard to get conservatives in Congress all we want, but with Obama still the President, all our work will go for nothing, because he'll still do whatever he wants; we've already seen it in his first term, and he'll have absolutely no constraints in a second. He will believe he has a mandate, and will ignore anyone acting to the contrary.

Thank you kindly for your response and explanation, bramps. It is appreciated, sincerely.

I guess the distinction between now and two weeks ago didn't register with me because a) I've never put any import at all on the VP candidate except when the main candidate (like McCain) is iffy health-wise, and mainly because b) I think Romney's "conversion" is, alas, expedient hogwash. :^(

I truly believe that abortion is the taking of innocent life and I also truly believe that advancing homosexual "outreach" to children and forcing adoption agencies to accommodate homosexual couples who want to adopt, is every bit as depraved and evil as being pro-abortion. Romney may have claimed conversion on abortion, but remains firmly committed to the homosexual agenda. Sol I say screw Romney and the donkey he rode in on no matter WHO he picks as VP!

“all our work will go for nothing, because he’ll still do whatever he wants; we’ve already seen it in his first term, and he’ll have absolutely no constraints in a second.”

Not so. If there are sufficient votes in the Senate, he can be impeached in the House and tried in the Senate. He has definitely violated the separation of powers intent of the constitution.

Romney could and probably would attempt the same thing, except he woudn’t have a congress to oppose him because of “party loyalty.” IF you care about the constitution, you will not help place either in office, but you can be sure that a strong CONSERVATIVE House and Senate will dispatch Obama. At a minimum they will keep him in check.

It is really time to reel back in the “Executive” branch of government...regardless of who holds it. The Judicial as well.

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