[Carry_Okie]

The only way to address NRA's objections is to simply and completely remove civilian firearms from the scope of the treaty. That is the only solution. On that, there will be no compromise.

I'll warn you again, in a nation that once employed privateers with full military capability, a nation that once counted its defense as every able bodied male and not a standing army, a nation that now bans hand-held weapons, there is no room for the ambiguity as to what constitutes "civilian arms." Do not let this quote become the defining meme in this debate.

Consider what will happen when hand-held military weapons and high tech body armor make firearms irrelevant. Are you willing to allow the Second Amendment be degraded from "arms" in general to "civilian firearms"?

[marktwain]

“Consider what will happen when hand-held military weapons and high tech body armor make firearms irrelevant.”

I am convinced that this was the intent with the National Firearms Act of 1932 (taxing full autos) and the highly unethical amendment to the Firearms Owners Protection Act in 1986 that ambiguously banned manufacture of full autos in the US for other than police and military.

[noinfringers2]

You make a very serious point about not being ambiguous as to ‘civilian firearms’. Recent history shows how much misconstruction can be made from undefined verbiage. I refer especially to the words ‘natural born’ in our Constitution as to eligibility for POTUSA. The Founders evidently believed from their discussions that such simplified wording was precise and adequate. Years later it comes that usurpers like Obama and his enablers can use the lack of definition as a means for ‘change’. Citizens of the USA, especially veterans and sports people must not allow sucs chicanery by words to remove our Constitutional rights. This is even more critical when the USA would lose sovereignty to a bunch of never-do-well nations. This issue calls for another call to all free people to protect their inalienable rights..

[wastedyears]

It seems like anybody with a known name always seems to forget the ‘arms’ part, and substitutes it with ‘firearms’.

I see arms as small mortars, artillery, rail-mobile artillery, crew-served weapons, launchers of all types, etc etc.

I would even go so far as to say coastal cities should have a modern Davy Crockett should any nation try to invade from the sea.

[FreedomPoster]

Well said, Carry_Okie.

Letters of Marque are embedded in the Constitution and are another point supporting your theme.