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To: Colonel Kangaroo
So Social Security recipients, who have been real producers all their life are now labeled takers?

And herein lies the problem. Even Freepers think that 20+ years of social security is their due “because they paid in” their entire working career. Yes you paid in, and Yes you are due. BUT, you are due what you paid and all accumulated interest. Once you calculate that out you will get social security payments for about two years. After that you are getting other peoples money just like a welfare recipient. If we can't convince our own, how do we convince anyone else?

40 posted on 07/12/2012 4:45:53 PM PDT by mistfree (You're responsible for your spelling of Yore)
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To: mistfree
And herein lies the problem. Even Freepers think that 20+ years of social security is their due “because they paid in” their entire working career.

What about those that only served 20 years in the Military and get expect retirement benefits for the rest of their lives?

47 posted on 07/12/2012 5:02:51 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: mistfree
Two years?

Why?

Because you choose to use a low interest figure to calculate return on investment.

If I would have been able to do nothing but purchase annuities with the 15% taken from my pay for the last 45 years, I would have a lot bigger monthly payment that what SS is providing.

If I wold have been allowed to use the 15% to buy gold and many other stocks, I would be far better off.

There are all kinds of investments where my money could go and I would be far better off than the return from Social Security.

91 posted on 07/13/2012 5:15:59 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: mistfree
Once you calculate that out you will get social security payments for about two years.

That's true for people who retired decades ago, but I've been paying the max Social Security tax for the last 30 years, and there's no way I'll get that back in anywhere near two years.

98 posted on 07/13/2012 7:26:23 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: mistfree
Once you calculate that out you will get social security payments for about two years.

You might want to revise and extend your remarks, friend.

For discussion purposes, let's consider the SS taxes contributed by one who averaged $50K for 30 years:

Employee portion = $50K * .062 = $3100 * 30 years = $93,000.

Double that to include the employer portion, and you come up with $186,000.

Assuming a payout of $2500/month from SS, or $30K per year, that results in a term of over 6 years, without any consideration of accrued interest over those 30 years.

A quick check through an annuity calculator yielded a life annuity of nearly $15K per year.

104 posted on 07/13/2012 10:45:03 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (My dream ticket for 2012 is John Galt & Dagny Taggart!)
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