I never thought it was a lie. I've read enough of your posts to know you're solid and can be counted on and I was around here then too (since before we had to register).
I had not actually followed the link back to the Congressional Record until this post from you. I'm glad I did because I saw the actual language that supposedly made it safe to ratify that treaty and made it possible for honest conservatives to put it through.
It never made sense to me that someone who worked as hard as Jesse Helms did to protect this country from the UN would sign on to this treaty and I'm guessing that he trusted his "treaty lawyer".
Back in 2000 right after this was passed, a FRiend posted the number for Richard J. Douglas, Chief Counsel for the Foreign Relations Committee and I called him.
The first day he was very friendly, told me he just called himself "Jesse Helms' Treaty Lawyer" and told me about all the safeguards for our country and our Constitution provided by "resolutions", "declarations" and "understandings".
I went back to the thread and told everybody we had nothing to worry about, and then the more informed posters told me the UN does not recognize resolutions, declarations and understandings. They also said that the UN had the treaty up on their website with protective language removed.
I called Douglas back and told him that. His reply was that we had it recorded on our copy and that if anything violated our Constitution that our president would simply show what we signed and not comply with constitutional violations. Since "our president" was BJ Clinton I expressed doubt that he would even contest it or that if the UN waited long enough, very few would remember the safeguards and the nation killer would go into effect.
He became very surly and said where was I and all my friends when this was being debated? I pointed out that it hadn't been in the news and had not been debated in the Senate so how were we to know. He replied that it was our duty to know and that if we had done our "homework" we could have stopped it and IIRC that he would have welcomed the support.
That was BS of course as he very well knew or it wouldn't have had to be snuck through which really pissed him off and he ripped on me/us again for not doing our homework and that it wasn't his duty to keep us informed, it was our duty to do our homework.
I asked if that meant we had to keep a person present in the Senate 24/7 or whenever they were in session to make sure we "did our homework" to know what was being done to us. He actually said that if we wanted to know what was going on we should do that!
I just did a search on him and he was running for the Senate in Maryland this year. TG that he lost in the primary, but his resume looks fantastic and I'll bet he'll be back. It makes me wonder just how many of these guys we're infested with. We know about the lefty ones, but what about the ones on "our" side...
That really sums up the liberal viewpoint: “Your elected representatives voted for it somehow, so tough.”
No matter how much of the Constitution, Senate rules, etc. that they violate along the way, they claim “democracy” was upheld, even though this isn’t about Democracy but Constitutionality.
Perhaps we should start demanding a web cam in the Senate chambers now.
He replied that it was our duty to know and that if we had done our "homework" we could have stopped it...
Some of us have done our homework in the intervening years. He probably doesn't like that either. He probably figured we would all remain static.
It makes me wonder just how many of these guys we're infested with. We know about the lefty ones, but what about the ones on "our" side...
Astute people have known that there are wolves in sheep's clothing on "our" side for quite some time.
Words indicate one thing, actions indicate another.