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Fiery Reaction to Marine’s Stolen Saddam Rifle (Marine Convicted of Possessing Iraqi AK-47)
The Press Enterprise ^ | July 6, 2012 | JOHN ASBURY

Posted on 07/07/2012 5:22:04 PM PDT by DogByte6RER

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To: wastedyears

I think the Bad Conduct Discharge is enough reason to not let him bring captured weapons home.

Correct me if I am wrong, but a BCD is normally enough to prevent you from legally purchasing firearms.


21 posted on 07/07/2012 6:19:49 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: DogByte6RER

And Holder probably won’t spend a day in jail and he got people killed.


22 posted on 07/07/2012 6:25:22 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: driftdiver

Exactly - he obviously isn’t the brightest bulb in the pack...

So - what ever happened to soldiers being able to bring home “souvenirs of their service”? Lots of GIs from WWII not only brought home, but also MAILED home everything from rifles to lighters ashtrays. Lots of stuff...


23 posted on 07/07/2012 6:29:48 PM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: donmeaker

I wouldn’t know, I’ve never been in the military and don’t know anything about the Code of Military Justice.


24 posted on 07/07/2012 6:39:59 PM PDT by wastedyears ("God? I didn't know he was signed onto the system.")
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To: 5th MEB
Your talking Commiefornia here man; where anything short, stubby, black , shiny, with a pistol grip, flash suppressor or any thing that will hold more than one squirt of water is considered a weapon of mass destruction.

Not that CA isn't run by gun-grabbing commies, but the article says the guy is up for federal prison, which means these are federal charges, not state charges (or, at least, that's what I gathered from years of watching Perry Mason). CA would certainly have prosecuted him for the weapon, but the fed got him first, apparently.
25 posted on 07/07/2012 6:47:05 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: fortheDeclaration
"All they have to do is make it so it cannot fire on auto, and then it is simply a collectors item."

You don't have the right JBT mindset. Don't you know that the ATF attacked (and slaughtered) the Branch Davidians in Waco because they were accused of having a few auto sears that could be used for converting semi-auto rifles to MACHINE GUNS -- without the ATF's permission?

No American can have a full-auto weapon without first kissing the @$$#$ of Holder's JBTs at ATF!!!

That lesson MUST be taught!

26 posted on 07/07/2012 6:49:35 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

“When my father walked off the aircraft carrier Kittyhawk on his return from the Pacific after WWII, one of the guys in his bunking area walked down the gangplank and onto US soil with several barrels sticking up out of his seabag - including a Thompson SMG.

My, oh my, how things have changed.”

Not really, if they had caught your father he would have been facing the exact same charges as the feds outlawed unregistered machine guns in the early 1930’s. The guy was an idiot for showing that off to friends in California of all places where they freak out at the sight of a sling-shot let alone an AK-47. That said I’m all for jury nullification in cases like this, unfortunately it’s only the blacks that have wised up on that account (at least if you consider the OJ verdict and a few other high profile trials where all black juries let and obvious guilty perp walk). Whites have yet to wise up but hopefully they will ... before it’s too late.


27 posted on 07/07/2012 6:53:42 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: WorkingClassFilth

28 posted on 07/07/2012 7:10:03 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: TheBattman

Rules have changed. Any war trophy must be approved by the authorities in theater before shipment stateside. Almost no firearms are ever signed off on and even many bladed weapons are refused. COs just do not want to get involved.

The guy knew the gun was illegal anywhere on US soil.

A BCD is his ticket to never own or possess a firearm for the rest of his life (he knew this as well).

Even a hero can run a foul of the law by making dumb choices. Duke Cunningham, for one.


29 posted on 07/07/2012 7:10:07 PM PDT by wrench
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To: DogByte6RER

They should give him a nice walnut show case to display the gun in, pin a nice shiny medal on him that has a place in the case too... and send him on the way after a series of salutes and apologies.


30 posted on 07/07/2012 7:26:08 PM PDT by GregoTX (Federalist)
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To: GregoTX

He was dishonorably discharged in December of 2011 for approving false travel claims and stealing from the United States government.

He is not likely to be getting a medal pinned on his chest.


31 posted on 07/07/2012 7:48:17 PM PDT by wrench
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To: DogByte6RER
"The debate comes down to the question of should a Marine’s tour of service outweigh his criminal transgressions."

"If you can't do the time, don't do the crime."

32 posted on 07/07/2012 7:49:19 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Fie on all those in the Marines, the media, the Federal Government who are going after this defender of America.

I am in my 60s — who in my generation did not know a friend whose uncle or father had brought back some flag, bayonet, or weapon captured from the Germans or the Japanese.

Did any of these heroes get prosecuted?

Does no one get that the CommieLibs keep changing the rules and moving the goal posts — like how now here in Texas you may no longer drive with an open container or ride in the back of a pick-up or ride in the back seat of a car without your seatbelts on.

We just keep taking it. We are such good-natured sheeple! We make it easy for the enemy within to assert control, one oppressive law, regulation, or prosecution after another.

I hope this guy survives this rap.

One last question: What benefit is there to prosecuting this guy? Only to the gun-grabbers and the oppressors in the Federal Government. It does nothing to help the Marines, this guy, his ex-wife, or the Iraqis.

The agenda is so transparent: A child could see it. Shoot, even I can see it.


33 posted on 07/07/2012 7:51:28 PM PDT by man_in_tx (Islam is a Hate Crime. (Blowback: Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily!))
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To: DogByte6RER
“The debate comes down to the question of should a Marine’s tour of service outweigh his criminal transgressions.”

“If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime.”

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Crime? What crime?


34 posted on 07/07/2012 7:53:16 PM PDT by man_in_tx (Islam is a Hate Crime. (Blowback: Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily!))
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To: donmeaker

He had a BCD? Okay, that’s bad. I don’t want a guy with a BCD walking around with an automatic weapon.

I will temper those words with the recognition I don’t know why he got a BCD...it might have been chickensh*t, but they don’t normally give a BCD for things like that.

I understand he served, but there is a difference between serving honorably and serving dishonorably. I will withhold full judgement pending more knowledge about the nature of his BCD.

But on its face, that is bad.


35 posted on 07/07/2012 7:57:23 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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To: donmeaker

Went back and re-read, $30,000 of forged travel claims. Bad. Bad. Bad.


36 posted on 07/07/2012 8:00:02 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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To: man_in_tx

My first reaction was similar to yours, but given that the guy got a BCD for forging $30,000 of travel claims, I am not standing behind this guy. He isn’t one I extend that to.


37 posted on 07/07/2012 8:02:28 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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To: TheBattman

My guess is that the rules changed as more and more machine guns became prevalent on the battlefields. Moreover, the Gun Control Act of 1968’s ban on importing machine gun receivers would have put the kibosh on it...as I recall there were a few genuine AK-47s (among other burp guns) that made it over as war trophies from Vietnam (dewatted or otherwise) before 1968.

And ATF’s rule on receivers is “once a machine gun, always a machine gun”. Even if it was made as a semiauto and got the “happy switch” later with no mods to the receiver (e.g. an M1 carbine converted to an M2).


38 posted on 07/07/2012 8:11:05 PM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: ctdonath2
>" We’re talking an agency which WILL convict you if they want to."

We're talking about an agency that burns American women and children alive!

Saint GW did nothing! Expect the same from Muttins!

39 posted on 07/07/2012 8:14:19 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: DogByte6RER
But ... the AK pistol is chrome plated suggesting that it may have been used as a ceremonial weapon for Saddam’s palace guard. While palace guards would be expected to carry functional and loaded weapons, maybe there was something like a palace guard precision drill team? If so, it would make sense that the weapons were de-activated.

If someone can make 20 years in the Marines and not know whether a firearm is functional or not, it speaks very poorly for the organization. But I'm thinking this guy might be a liar as well as a thief.

40 posted on 07/07/2012 8:15:14 PM PDT by PAR35
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