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To: Peter Libra; SvenMagnussen; LucyT; Brown Deer
What you described is the known LEARNED abuse pattern....the answer to your question is yes. (It often is accompanied by substance abuse, but most in the know say they are separate issues and must be treated separately.

Along with that pattern is ALWAYS the threat to either take the child or kill the child.

Sven has indicated in his posts that 0 was made a ward of Catholic Services and his grandmother was appointed guardian. My dad worked with children in need of services for over forty years. He said to remove custody from the mother more had to be going on then just letting him travel without adult accompaniment.....Wonder if that is when he got the scar on his head. Is the scar mentioned in the book. It's a doosey! Thanks for your information...List of books to read is getting higher and higher.

201 posted on 07/07/2012 9:56:58 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: hoosiermama
Your post #201.

Somewhat late in doing my homework with the book by David Maraniss.

Wonder if that is when he got the scar on his head. Is the scar mentioned in the book.It's a doosey .

This is purely a matter of interest, but the closest I could come to an injury on the head is on page 222. It was preceded by boyish pranks, at which "Barry" was the chief perpetrator. He shoved a turtle up to a playmates face. I take the liberty of quoting from the book.

"Yul, who was much shorter , jumped up and hit him on the head, but Barry did not get angry. The other kids noted that he had an unusually hard head, so hard it made your hand hurt when you hit him. Yul said it was like batu kali, as hard as a river stone. "

In another incident "Barry" pranked his bicycle driver and the lad fell of the bike and broke his arm. Today, that person says "no hard feelings.....were just kids.

As I read on, I find that Maraniss has unintentionally caused disquiet about his man. Still, I have not heard anyone else on that aspect yet.

254 posted on 07/22/2012 1:59:56 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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