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To: Talisker
While I share the opinions of Scalia, Thomas, et al, I do believe that Roberts will be vindicated through all of this. Even if the RINOs take control of the Senate and subsequently fail to overturn ObamaTax, it can still be challenged as an unconstitutional tax. The important thing at this point is that the commerce clause was crucially weakened by a 7-2 vote, and this would not have happened without Roberts.

Sure, it would have been nice to have the Supreme Court do the heavy lifting for us, but isn't that what liberals do? Let's get out there and retake control of our government, and vote this monstrosity out of existence. It's what our founding fathers would have wanted.

39 posted on 07/07/2012 8:33:17 AM PDT by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: Hoodat

“The important thing at this point is that the commerce clause was crucially weakened by a 7-2 vote, and this would not have happened without Roberts.”

No, it wasn’t. The commerce clause ruling is not a binding precedent.

“Sure, it would have been nice to have the Supreme Court do the heavy lifting for us, but isn’t that what liberals do?”

No, the liberals want the Supreme Court to pass laws for them, we want the Supreme Court to strike down unconstitutional laws. There’s a world of difference.


63 posted on 07/07/2012 9:40:44 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Hoodat
The important thing at this point is that the commerce clause was crucially weakened by a 7-2 vote, and this would not have happened without Roberts.

Simply untrue!

Seven Justices never voted to weaken the commerce clause.

It's pure dicta and has no bearing on any future commerce clause cases.

118 posted on 07/18/2012 5:59:36 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: Hoodat

[[The important thing at this point is that the commerce clause was crucially weakened by a 7-2 vote, and this would not have happened without Roberts.]]

No-
I’m sorry- that wasn’t the most important thing to come fro mthe ruling- Roberts has now given the democrats the ability to keep ‘reinstating’ obummercare when they regain the office and senate- even if a previous republican president repeals the law- they will simply just reinstate it- so we’ll have 4-8 years of our constitutional rights violated, and 4-8 years where the republicans come in and save us from an oppresive government IF they contriol the senate as well and get enough votes to repeal the unlawful law-

[[ Let’s get out there and retake control of our government,]]

We shouldn’t have to hope beyond hope that we can elect enouygh republicans to repeal an UNLAWFUL law- The supreme court should have upheld our constitution, and roberts FAILED to do so- He FAILED America, and forever opened up pandoras box (unless the issue can coem before the supreme court again in a new challenge- Lawyersw NEED to bring htis back before the supreme court to determien IF our government has a right to tax someoen AGAINST THEIR WILL (not yelling, just stressign key points brought out in my previous post) simply for existing- We as a coutnry have never ever doen htis because we for them ost part valued freedoms (to an extent)- roberts however opened up the door for congress and hte presidency to deny us this freedom as explaiend in my previosu post


120 posted on 07/28/2012 10:32:46 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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