Orphans Pictured Chained Up in China

The Telegraph ^ | 06 Jul 2012 | Tom Phillips

[nickcarraway]

Authorities have suspended the director of an orphanage in eastern China after photographs showing two mentally disabled children shackled to furniture with metal chains were posted online.

The scandal, the latest example of how the internet and social media have become powerful weapons against human-rights abuses in China, broke late last month when photographs taken at an orphanage in Cangnan county, in Zhejiang province, began circulating online.

One image showed two boys, aged six and nine, eating from bowls while chained to a wooden bench with metal chains, rope and a blue bicycle lock.

“Is it a welfare home or child abuse home?” one user of Weibo, China’s answer to Twitter, wrote under the name Kevin-JK356.

Referring to the orphanage’s staff, he added: “Dig them out and make them spend the rest of their lives like this!”

Another angry 'netizen’, Fengse Wangxiang, wrote: “Can this place be called a welfare house? It should be called a violent house.”

Following the online reaction, authorities launched an investigation into allegations of misconduct at the orphanage which was reportedly home to 21 children, 19 of whom were physically or mentally disabled, and staffed by “four elderly women, who had received no training or care provision.” According to a report in the state-controlled Xinhua new agency, local officials admitted “nurses had used chains to confine the two boys, both of whom suffer mental illness”.

Xinhua said nurses had resorted to using chains “to prevent the boys from defecating uncontrollably and hurting other children”.

In a statement released this week Cangnan county’s Communist Party committee said it had placed the orphanage’s director under investigation and was looking into the “possible misconduct” of staff.

[GOPJ]

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[papertyger]

You're a freak dude. Anyone who admires the Chinese communist system of "justice" is a stone cold f r e a k .

How about giving a substantive response instead of calling names.

One would be inclined to believe you don't HAVE a substantive answer by playing such games.

[Valpal1]

if you do something that merits the death penalty you get a bullet to the back of the head fairly quickly

And even if you don't, you get a bullet to the back of the head fairly quickly.

Guess they have us beat with efficient delivery of government services.

[trapped_in_LA]

I did not say that I admired it only that it was much more efficient than ours in executing deathrow inmates. But since you want to compare the two, look at the US, how many people do we have warehoused in prisons? 2.25 million with another 8-9 million on probation that dwarfs any other nation out there, including China which has a fairly low prison population (around 100 per 100,000 versus the US where it is over 700 per 100,000). And no they are not killing people by the millions any more, you could hardly call China communist any more as it is far more capitalistic than we are here in the US. Take off the blinders dude the only freaks around here are those that turn a blind eye to what is going on in their own back yard while criticizing how other countries enforce their laws.

[trapped_in_LA]

“Aside from all that , it’s really quite self explanatory why anyone living in the free-est nation on Earth ...”

Ya tell me how free we are while you’re getting your gonads groped at the airport while watching your 9 year old daughter get molested by some minority hire. Or tell me that when you try to drain the swamp in the back forty without the feds coming down on you like a ton of bricks for destroying “wetlands”. Or tell that to the organic milk farmers recently raided by FDA SWAT teams for selling raw milk. Only thing I can say to you is that you are about as blinded and ignorant as they come and if you think that the US courts are any less corrupt than they are in the rest of the world all you have to do is read Chief Justice Roberts ruling on Obama care or ask why most of Wall Street are not lined up against that wall in China. Pathetic.

[Broker]

We have evidence of Murderous Chinese Communists in every major American city. HUMAN BODIES. Preservered dissected bodies in action poses on full display for American’ entertainment and “education”. Ask who are these corpses? Do they have death certificates or give permission to have their remains exhibited?

China is a Darwinist, Godless nation wherein a human life liberty and justice are words with no meaning.

[antisocial]

So are you an admirer of the Chinese system of justice?

[papertyger]

So are you an admirer of the Chinese system of justice?

Are you an admirer of "trial by Sharpton?"

When you can pose a worthwhile question, get back to me.

[MD Expat in PA]

While you may be so enamored by the “expediency and efficiency” of the Chinese; the Communist and brutally repressive, the so called “People's Republic” of China’s justice system; their expediency and efficiency of carrying out death sentences and their comparatively low prison population compared to ours; I for one would much rather live in a country that has an actual justice system and rule of law; one predicated on the presumption of innocence rather than the presumption of guilt; one that allows for reasonable appeals and one that doesn’t immediately line up “offenders” upon conviction, including convicted political dissidents and various non-violent criminals up against a wall, shooting them in the head based on a system where guilt is automatically assumed and the guilty and the innocent are treated no differently with none having any chance of mounting any sort of appeal once the government has deemed one to be guilty. Do you really want a system of justice here that lines up convicted petty non-violent criminals, DUI offenders, someone arrested with a small amount of marijuana, someone who was uploading music via the internet, someone in violation of the “One Child” policy along with convicted murders and rapists – all to be summarily and quickly executed just to keep the prison population low?

As infuriating as it is sometimes; I for one (and YMMV) would much rather have and support a larger prison population rather than a system of “justice” where people are summarily executed on the spot immediately after “conviction” for all sorts of “crimes”, including petty and “thought” crimes after a “show trial” where the “state” holds all the cards and where accusation automatically = conviction.

I’d much rather see a justice system like we have here; where occasionally a guilty man goes free because the “State” perpetrated a miscarriage of justice; where they violated the rule of law and manufactured false or withheld evidence just to get a conviction, even when the perp was let free on a technicality even if the perp was probably guilty, rather than a system of justice where the state can do and say anything just to get a conviction even when the actual evidence proves the person innocent and a truly innocent person is convicted and or executed.

I’m not at all against the death penalty for premeditated murder and I think it should be used more, but I also think that before the “state” executes a free citizen – takes the life of a citizen for such a crime; the “state” had better well have proved their conviction, one that can stand up to an appeal – the right to a fair and impartial appeal being a very important part of our system of justice and the right of every citizen.

And while you espouse and are so enamored with the expediency and efficiency of the Chinese government in carrying out “their laws”, tell us how you feel about the expediency and efficiency with which the Chinese government carries out its “one child” policy – forced sterilizations and forced abortions….one can certainly not argue that the Chi-Coms are very efficient and expedient in carrying out those laws.

[papertyger]

Are you really so myopic as to imagine the “expediency and efficiency” of Chinese “justice” is an inherent characteristic of their political system, or that our grossly misapplied exercises of police powers are inherent to ours?

[riri]

That picture is so behind the times. It can be much more antiseptic now. We have unmanned drones who can take out citizens.

[papertyger]

." You need not say one more word in order to convince me that I'm arguing with an abject ignoramous. And ditto with papertyger.

Assuming you actually know the definition of the word "ignoramus," I have to ask...when's the last time YOU were in China?

[papertyger]

Sadly, some here choose to accept the fraudlent, politically correct portrait of communist China.

I see you are content to "double down" on stupid.

Please tell me one fact you know about China that is not "common knowledge" in western circles.

[papertyger]

LOL. When was the last time you were in China? That time you serving as an attaché to the communist propaganda minister in Hunan Province?

No. 2009, when I adopted my daughter.

Why adopt from China when we have so many red blooded American orphans?

Because you can no longer get a "closed" adoption in America, and the State will jump in to "help" the crack whore birthmother shake you down until you pony up enough cash to get her to go away.

So you and trapdoorLA are here to convince me that the freedom, liberty and justice that I plainly see displayed here everyday in the USA is 10 times far LESS prevalent here in the USA than I thought it was, and that freedom, liberty and justice in communist China is 10 times far MORE prevalent in communist China than I thought it was.

No. I'm here to point out the fact that you are a chauvinist bigot. That you know nothing about China beyond hear-say. And that you are too stupid to recognize the "freedom, liberty, and justice that you plainly see displayed here everyday in the USA" is a textbook example of "what a fool believes, he sees."

I guess I'm gonna go with my original assumption that you guys are either dedicated left-wing trolls, or, your brains have become inverted by left-wing propaganda disseminated through the American media and American institutions of "learning".

Well that would make you a poster-boy for the old adage about "assuming."

I've been actively and steadily FReeping for fourteen years, n00b. You're the last Swinging Richard I need to show my bona fides.

Apparently, 30-40% of our population has socialist/communist/Marxist political sympathies or the Marxist usurper that now occupies the White House wouldn't have stood a chance at getting himself elected (the other 10% needed to put him over the top I attribute to voter fraud).

And while that may well be true, I'm not one of them.

Furthermore, I wouldn't venture a guess as to the percentage of our population too myopic to recognize authoritarian repressions committed by other countries do not mitigate authoritarian repressions committed by my own country, but apparently you are...

Freedom? Try burning a koran.

Liberty? Try publicly opposing abortion.

Justice? Try defending yourself from a beat down from someone a head taller than you who happens to be black.

The problem with people like you is they're too stupid to recognize a "distinction without difference" and too proud to admit they've been suckered.

And before you throw the standard "then why don't you move to China" cliche so popular among those with nothing left to say, I'll answer with "because this is my country, not China."