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To: sickoflibs

Hey, you’re preaching to the choir here. I’m just trying to make lemonade out of the lemmon. I said, back before Cain dropped out, that the worst nominee would be Romney because Obamacare was obama’s Achilles heel and it is based on Romneycare, effectively making him the worst possible choice.

But, here we are. ;-)

Meanwhile, Romneycare is different from Obamacare in many ways, and one of the biggest ways it is different is that it affects only one state. This forces the state to take into account that people CAN flee the state if it is impacting them negatively. This keeps the state from going crazy with what they offer and tax.

At the federal level, there is no “competition from other states” and therefore there are no checks and balances, as the SCOTUS just proved.

All that being said, if I thought who wins in November really mattered all that much, I’d be really depressed.


31 posted on 07/06/2012 6:28:04 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf
RE :”I’m just trying to make lemonade out of the lemmon

Reminds me of how prisons stopped giving prisoners fresh fruit because they were stowing it to put in plastic bags to ferment drinking alcohol Yuk! That lemonade is nasty.

Romney has to make a case himself and it cant be the argument you keep giving, that Romney-care is limited to MA so it is better than Obama-care. Newt could make that case, as could Perry or Bachmann, but it is not effective coming from Romney.

'Why is Romney-care bad for other states? Is is good for MA? Are you sorry you passed it? Why did you recommend it for the federal government if you think it is only better because it was limited one state? ' He cant answer these questions.

He is losing an unlosable election.

33 posted on 07/06/2012 6:42:58 AM PDT by sickoflibs (ABBBO chant: "We must support Romney because he doesn't matter." (Obam-ney Care is bad now ))
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To: cuban leaf
Meanwhile, Romneycare is different from Obamacare in many ways, and one of the biggest ways it is different is that it affects only one state. This forces the state to take into account that people CAN flee the state if it is impacting them negatively. This keeps the state from going crazy with what they offer and tax.

This.

And people ARE fleeing the Commonwealth, though if I had to venture a guess why, RomneyCare has little to do with it. The main reasons people are leaving the Commonwealth include: (1) high cost of living, (2) sketchy economic prospects, (3) high cost of doing business, (4) climate, (5) Massholes, (6 - 10) Massholes.

RomneyCare blows, and I'm no fan of the Mittster, even though I did vote for him for governor and for Senator. RomneyCare punches you in the gut when you switch jobs, and for whatever reason, find yourself having to purchase health care on the open market. For example, I left a job, and before I could get on my new job's health care plan, I had to wait out a certain period of time before I could qualify for open enrollment in my new company's plan. Until that time, I had to purchase my own policy on the open market . . . $1,500 clams for a family of four. In the old days, I could've rolled the dice, but under RomneyCare, I would get whacked on my taxes for not having coverage.

So basically, I had to fork over $3,000 to some insurance company for two months in exchange for exactly zero goods or services in return, since neither me nor my family needed health care services during this time. And that effing sucks: some insurance company made 100% profit on my back, all because of some goddamn law that forces me to buy health insurance or else pay a fine. And it's not like I'm going to be able to take advantage of that $3K expenditure some day, as that was insurance company X, and now my policy is with insurance company Y.

People don't realize that the first step towards "solving" this health care issue is decoupling health care service delivery from the insurance paradigm. Until we get that part straight, there will be no reform, ever.

35 posted on 07/06/2012 6:52:13 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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