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To: firedawg76
...when I present them facts ... they simply ignore them.

Here is your problem. They are emotion driven people. They don't do well with facts. If they did, they could add numbers up and figure out that every liberal idea ever thought of is a failure.

The only thing that works on these people is emotion. You have to lead with emotion, you have to argue with emotion, and you can only beat them with emotion.

I know this is a difficult concept for a fact driven person to wrap their mind around, but I assure you that irrational arguments work on irrational people. Focus on "Death Panels" and cite England's NHS as an example. Moan about all the poor people who are suffering because the government runs medicine with as much empathy as the Nazis ran death camps.

Use arguments like that, and you'll have better luck. But facts? They are often a hindrance when arguing with Liberals. In a nation that knows more about Snooki than they do about George Washington, reasoning is a waste of time.

26 posted on 07/05/2012 3:57:05 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Would yuu add your death panal to bullet points maybe we can get some one to make a graphic.


29 posted on 07/05/2012 4:00:26 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying then or now!)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Moan about all the poor people who are suffering because the government runs medicine with as much empathy as the Nazis ran death camps.

Another angle I'd suggest taking is to observe that different people receive different amounts of benefit from various services; some 90-year-olds, for example, would receive much more benefit from a hip replacement than would some 60-year-olds. Willingness to pay for something is not a perfect proxy for "need", but it has some major advantages over alternatives. Among other things, it reward those who "need" less, and punishes those who "need" too much. Most other methods of resource allocation either ignore need altogether, or else reward those who make themselves as "needy" as possible.

41 posted on 07/05/2012 5:13:12 PM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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