Posted on 07/03/2012 8:34:59 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
A young patient who died of dehydration at a leading teaching hospital phoned police from his bed because he was so thirsty, an inquest heard yesterday.
Officers arrived at Kane Gorny's bedside, but were told by nurses that he was in a confused state and were sent away.
The keen footballer and runner, 22, died of dehydration a few hours later.
A coroner had such grave concerns about the case that she referred it to police.
Yesterday an inquest was told how Mr Gorny died after blunders and neglect by 'lazy and careless' medical staff at St George's Hospital in Tooting, South London.
His mother Rita Cronin, a civil servant told Westminster Coroner's Court that staff tutted at her and repeatedly refused to listen to her concerns that her son hadn't been given vital medication.
At one point he became so desperate and upset that staff sedated and restrained him – and on the night before his death, his mother said, he was not checked on by medical staff, despite being in a room on his own.
Following his death, a nurse allegedly inquired whether the family, from Balham, South-West London, was 'finished' and asked a matron in front of them whether she could 'bag him up'.
Mr Gorny, who worked in Waitrose and was training to be a locksmith and shoe repairer, had survived a malignant brain tumour in 2008.
The cancer affected his pituitary gland, which controls the body's mechanisms, such as fluid levels. Part of his treatment included a course of steroids to regulate the fluid levels in his body. These drugs, however, weakened his bones and he was in hospital for a routine hip replacement.
Doctors told him that, without regular medication to control his fluid levels, he would die.
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I doubt it was mere neglect; he was too costly to let live. This is the hospital staff stealth death panel in action. Coming soon to America.
And all his lady friends too!
See your doctor at the DMV! I hate the feds.
I’,m wondering where the family was. I recently spent a week in the hospital and I probably had less than 10 total hours alone. The hospital staff even let everyone stay with me when I was in the ICU.
That’s the way it’s always been with us. Just going home for the night is weird and, if the person is uncomfortable enough or sick enough, won’t be considered.
I've always thought the British tolerate and defend their substandard medical care because they have no experience with any other kind.
Americans, on the other hand, would likely not tolerate it.
Of course, when the government's running health care, we'll finally get tort reform! :0)
Following his death, a nurse allegedly inquired whether the family, from Balham, South-West London, was 'finished' and asked a matron in front of them whether she could 'bag him up'.
“I’ve always thought the British tolerate and defend their substandard medical care because they have no experience with any other kind.”
A common misconception amongst American users of this forum. In the UK we have three choices for healthcare:
1)Use the NHS.
2)Take out private medical insurance if your employer doesn’t include it with your job - most do as soon as you get to lower management or above.
3)Put your hand in your pocket and pay for it yourself.
If you don’t want to use the NHS, no-one is going to force you. I’ve never used it because my parents always had private insurance with their job that covered the whole family and I’ve always done the same.
Homicide.
Let me ask you, do Britons who can do otherwise opt to use NHS?
When I had a medical issue in England, I don't recall ever being offered a choice.
C’mon. American system looks as weird for most foreigners who has options.
There are numerous people who can’t afford paid healthcare there. Any healthcare is better than nothing for them.
And people with money and insurance are free to choose better clinics.
“Let me ask you, do Britons who can do otherwise opt to use NHS?”
Some do, just as some Americans who can afford insurance choose not to buy it.
“When I had a medical issue in England, I don’t recall ever being offered a choice.”
If you were unconcious you will automatically have been taken to an NHS A&E as the ambulance staff would have no way of telling whether you had insurance or wanted private care. If you were concious it’s up to you to say whether you have private insurance or would simply rather pay for private - they’ll transfer you immediately if you don’t want to use NHS facilities.
Just google ‘private hospitals UK’ and you’ll see there’s hardly a town without one.
The trouble is, whether you use the NHS or not, you are forced to pay for it via taxes and and National Insurance. There is no option to ‘opt out’ so at best, you are paying for two different schemes.
Having said that, my experience of the NHS has generally been positive, and one could point out many horror stories from the American healthcare system...
It’s going to be a lot worse here in United States when the Democrat Party finishes its takeover.
Why? Because the IRS is going to administer healthcare. And nothing says warm human care and 16,000 armed IRS agents hired by Obamacare.
This type of neglect happens EVERY DAY here in America... NOW!
Don’t stay in a hospital unless you MUST; and have a family member present with you at ALL times! Document every visit by staff, every med given, EVERYTHING.
People that do the above are cared for better, because staff know that someone is watching and taking notes.
“He called Herman Cain???”
That’s funny. I bet if he had called Herman Cain he would have gotten his water and a pizza too!
“The trouble is, whether you use the NHS or not, you are forced to pay for it via taxes and and National Insurance.”
That’s true but it can be quite good value even so. I’m self-employed and my combined National Insurance contributions and private medical insurance premiums are less than I paid just for comprehensive medical insurance when I lived in California a few years ago. Class 2 NIC’s for the self-employed are £2.65 ($4.14) a week and my private policy is £63 a month ($98), so it’s not too pricey even for both.
Having said all that I’m not a huge fan of the concept of goverment run healthcare and an opt-out for those of us who don’t need the NHS would be better.
My son and his wife are both RNs. They will NOT allow any member of their family to be alone in the hospital - not even the hospital in which they work(ed)(my son was severely injured on active duty and can no longer do the physical work of nursing). My daughtger-in-law checked out of work to stay with my daughter rather than leave my daughter alone.
No, I would think it's nearly always a matter of affordability when Americans decide whether to buy health insurance. I have a MSA, which means basically I am self-insured, because I am self-emplloyed.
Regardless, in the US, one's method of payment does not, at least directly, determine the level or standard of care the patient receives.
I am a Hospice RN now after 6 years in a hospital.
NO WAY will any member of my family be alone in a hospital - EVER.
Understaffing, new grad nurses, foreign nurses & MDs that can’t speak understandable English, apathetic support staff.... you get the picture.
My F-i-L had to have surgery, and postop he was on my unit. I insisted that a family member stayed with him when I wasn’t there, and I personally assigned the staff that cared for him. The PTB didn’t like it very much, but I just told them flat out that that was how it was going to be - and if they didn’t like it, they surely wouldn’t like the full-page ad I was going to take out in the local paper spilling ALL the beans!
Hospital is now a place to avoid if at all possible.
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