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Grassley is going right after the coverup, who in the DOJ decided to coverup an ATF panel investigation and shut it down. This is real damning interesting stuff.
1 posted on 07/03/2012 2:15:40 PM PDT by sunmars
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200+ Mexicans dead, 2 dead US cops, Federale helicopter shot-down, casino burned with dead people stacked up in the bathroom for fresh air, grenades, POTUS cover-up....

When I was a boy I never imagined we’d get HERE.

It’s like a movie.

BIGGEST SCANDAL IN US HISTORY.


2 posted on 07/03/2012 2:22:44 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: sunmars

lock WithHolder up, throw away the key!


3 posted on 07/03/2012 2:23:40 PM PDT by nevermorelenore
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To: sunmars
Grassley is going right after the coverup, who in the DOJ decided to coverup an ATF panel investigation and shut it down. This is real damning interesting stuff.

More-so than that contrived outrage over the cover-up of the break-in to some doomed campaign office some 40 years ago. The Media can't provide enough pats on their own backs for engineering that coup, but when it comes to covering the case of government (Dem Government) abetted murder, and that cover-up -- nothing but crickets...

4 posted on 07/03/2012 2:26:23 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: sunmars
IMPEACH NOW.
5 posted on 07/03/2012 2:26:58 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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“”Sen Grassley : New Letter to Holder Today”””

Maybe it’s a scary one WITH ALL CAPS. That’ll show em.


7 posted on 07/03/2012 2:35:55 PM PDT by shelterguy
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They are not going to let up on this sleeze bag. They will ultimately get a court order...and then these bozos will start destroying evidence if they haven’t been involved in it already in a major way.

But its going to come out. There are patriots within Justice who are leaking what is happening and blowing the whistle.

Thank God for them and God bless and protect them. Save for them, we would not have known about any of this until it blew up on our own streets.

I am willing to bet, that some of the things that have occurred over the last year, if we knew everything, right here in America, will lead back to the same operation. IOW, they probably walked guns to criminals on this side of hte border too.

MURDERGATE: Eric Holder and FAst and Furious
http://www.jeffhead.com/fandf.htm


9 posted on 07/03/2012 2:43:57 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: sunmars

The three paragraphs before the last paragraph of the SA’s memo documenting his contact with Grassley’s group is ‘damning’ for sure.


11 posted on 07/03/2012 2:46:35 PM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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OOO letters....

Why don’t you send him some chocolate too, Chuck?


15 posted on 07/03/2012 3:01:13 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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This was direct, documented information from street level agents in a far better position to know the facts than the senior supervisory personnel whom DOJ claims to have relied upon for information about the allegations.

What's this crap about pretending that the "street level" had better information when it is obvious that F&F originated at the top level?

18 posted on 07/03/2012 3:20:18 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: sunmars

This will obviously continue to the election. I will believe the Republicans are serious when I see them continue this past the election. I am tired of these election year gimmicks with no follow through. If it’s illegal, it’s illegal. An arbitrary election date shouldn’t stop the investigation.

And yeah, I’m getting p***sed at the Republican’s lack of real spine in following through. Get some BALLS dammit!


28 posted on 07/03/2012 4:07:41 PM PDT by Magnatron
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To: sunmars
If it ain't in the New York Times it never happened and even if it did it didn’t cause it weren't in the New York Times!

How do you think they turned Roberts to the Dark Side?

29 posted on 07/03/2012 4:14:13 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("With one appallingly stupid ruling SCCJ Roberts converted tax lawyers into defense attorneys.")
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Enough already.. We want ACTION, not words.. PRISON TIME!

31 posted on 07/03/2012 4:34:32 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: MestaMachine

July 3, 2012
Via Electronic Transmission

The Honorable Eric H. Holder, Jr.
Attorney General
U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20530

Dear Attorney General Holder:

The investigation into Operation Fast and Furious has focused on two specific areas: (1) When did individuals within the Department of Justice (DOJ/Department) become aware of the tactics and (2) How did DOJ provide false information to Congress regarding the allegations of gunwalking.

I believe the Department should have been abundantly aware of allegations of gunwalking as there was more than one ATF agent providing information to Department components before the February 4, 2011, letter was sent to Congress.

Specifically, on February 2, 2011, my investigators contacted an ATF Special Agent who worked out of the Phoenix Field Division, Group VII office, and was familiar with Operation Fast and Furious. The conversation centered on the ATF Agent’s recollection of how Fast and Furious was executed and his recollection confirmed the allegations my office had heard from other ATF whistleblowers. What was unknown until late 2011 was that this ATF Agent produced a memorandum on February 3, 2011, which documented his discussion about Fast and Furious. The subject of the memorandum is, “Contact with Congressional Investigators,” and I have enclosed it within this letter.

This Fast and Furious memorandum traveled rapidly through ATF’s chain of command. The memorandum was emailed on February 3, 2011, from the Dallas Field Division to Phoenix SAC William Newell and Deputy Assistant Director for Field Operations William McMahon. Records that the Justice Department has withheld from Congress, which were only made available for review in camera, show an email chain attaching this memorandum was sent to Assistant Director of Field Operations Mark Chait at ATF headquarters by the afternoon of February 3, 2011.

According to ATF personnel, the memorandum was discussed by high level ATF personnel and possibly forwarded to DOJ headquarters on February 3, 2011. Specifically, it has been alleged that individuals within the Deputy Attorney General’s (DAG’s) office and the Office of Legislative Affairs (OLA) at the Department were aware of or actually read the memorandum before the Department’s February 4, 2011, letter was sent. Some individuals who spoke with my office claim they were “alarmed” by the substance of the memorandum and it caused such a stir that ATF planned to put a panel together to address the allegations but someone within DOJ suppressed the idea.

The possibility that DOJ was aware of this memorandum on February 3, 2011, and still sent the erroneous letter to Congress on February 4, 2011, raises more questions about DOJ’s claim that faulty information from Department components inadvertently led to the false letter. This was direct, documented information from street level agents in a far better position to know the facts than the senior supervisory personnel whom DOJ claims to have relied upon for information about the allegations.

Discovering how high up the chain of command inside the Justice Department the memorandum was reviewed has not been easy. The Department has not made available certain individuals who could corroborate what my office has been told. Moreover, it is unclear whether the set of “deliberative” materials about the drafting of the February 4, 2011, letter that the Department produced to Congress constitutes a complete set of all relevant documents or whether other relevant documents from the pre-February 4th timeframe may have been withheld. Consequently, please answer the following questions:

1) Have all records relating to the February 3, 2011, memorandum been gathered and preserved by the Justice Department? If not, why not? If so, please describe the nature and volume of those records.

2) Will you produce those records to Congress? If not, please explain why not.

3) Which DOJ personnel received a copy of the February 3, 2011, memorandum prior to February 4, 2011?

4) Which DOJ personnel were aware of the memorandum before the February 4, 2011 reply was sent to me? Please provide all records related to these questions, or certify that all relevant documents have already been provided.

I would appreciate a written response by no later than July 17, 2012. If you have any questions concerning this matter, please contact Brian Downey of my staff at (202) 224-5225.

Sincerely,

Charles E. Grassley
Ranking Member

Enclosure

cc: The Honorable Patrick J. Leahy, Chairman
Committee on the Judiciary, U.S. Senate

The Honorable Darrell E. Issa, Chairman
Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, U.S. House of Representatives

The Honorable Elijah E. Cummings, Ranking Member
Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, U.S. House of Representatives

The Honorable Michael E. Horowitz, Inspector General
U.S. Department of Justice

B. Todd Jones, Acting Director
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives


33 posted on 07/03/2012 5:19:50 PM PDT by thouworm (.)
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Related thread:

Another ‘Fast and Furious’ Memo Released

34 posted on 07/03/2012 5:26:02 PM PDT by thouworm (.)
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Actually, Issa and Grassley should use a little psychological warfare on the Dept of Just Us, as well as the ATF and others involved in these schemes.

Create a *partial* list of henchmen who are “on track” to be criminally indicted, making a few glaring omissions, and include in the “very confidential” document that *agreements* had been made with those who are providing information and willing to testify against the others for leniency.

Then arrange a very careful leak of the document. By all appearances the leak needs to look genuine, but needs to be disseminated widely to those involved.


37 posted on 07/03/2012 6:15:26 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Drip...drip....drip. Another day another letter....more pressure.
40 posted on 07/03/2012 6:38:57 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying then or now!)
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Tuesday, July 3, 2012

A Fast Jason Weinstein Trip to a Furious Pat Cunningham



I have picked up on a strange report about Jason “Main Justice” Weinstein, whose appearances in subpoenaed documents brackets Department of Justice involvement Fast & Furious. Weinstein first appears in a September 9, 2009 email to Lanny “Deep in the Cheese” Breuer, which discusses ATF and DOJ coordination of gun trafficking investigations. It ends with an analytical review, now claimed to be the subject of executive privilege, ordered by Breuer, sometime after February 4, 2011. On that date, the DOJ provided a letter to Congress, drafted in part by Weinstein, which falsely claimed that ATF made “every effort to interdict weapons that have been purchased illegally and prevent their transportation to Mexico.”

The post February 4, 2011 talking points are that the ATF and Patrick Cunningham, the Chief of the Criminal Division for the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Arizona, dove into gunwalking as an ill-conceived investigative technique, without the knowledge of Eric Holder or the President. This theme emerged from the highest source as early as March 22, 2011, when Barak Obama declared:

There have been problems, you know. I heard on the news about this story that — Fast and Furious, where allegedly guns were being run into Mexico, and ATF knew about it, but didn’t apprehend those who had sent it. Eric Holder has — the attorney general has been very clear that he knew nothing about this.

We know, you know, this narrative is highly suspect.  Lanny Breuer is the Assistant Attorney General that heads up the DOJ Criminal Division.  He reports directly to Eric Holder. Mr. Breuer met with ATF Deputy Director Billy Hoover and ATF Assistant Director for Field Operations Mark Chait on Jan. 5, 2010, the same day the ATF delivered a report detailing all of the weapons that could be linked to known Fast & Furious straw purchasers, who bought 685 guns in less than two months, many of which were recovered in Mexico. Soon after that, ATF sought and received approval that Fast and Furious was to become an Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCDETF) case. From that point on, Main Justice was intimately involved with all aspects of the investigation.  

I find a Greta Van Susteren interview with Congressman Jason Chaffetz to be strange, because of something that seemed new. In the interview, Congressman Chaffetz discussed that “both homeland security and the Department of Justice” appeared to scramble after they learned of the death of Brian Terry in December 2010 and the death of Immigration Customs Enforcement agent Jaime Zapata on February 16, 2011. Evidence of the scramble, the congressman states, was:

Jason Weinstein goes down to Phoenix and gives a glowing report of the ATF, but only later then in August to try to rescind all the glowing comments. 
 
This sparked my interest, because a Weinstein trip to Phoenix does not appear in the 64 page May 12 Committee Memorandum.

On the other hand, the Memorandum states that the Lanny Breuer ordered a Weinstein analytical review, which came to include an interview with Arizona U.S. Attorney Patrick Cunningham. We also know that the Committee first sought a Mr. Cunningham interview in the summer 2011, around the time Weinstein, according to Chaffetz, “rescinded” glowing comments about Fast & Furious. 

When it came time to appear for his committee interview, Cunningham retained his own attorney, rather than rely upon counsel provided by the DOJ.  To me, this means that Cunningham’s legal interests became adverse to the legal interests of the DOJ.  Thereafter, Cunningham asserted his 5th Amendment rights, with a statement from his attorney that, “If as you claim that Department officials have blamed my client, they have blamed him unfairly.” On January 27, 2012, Cunningham left the Department of Justice.

The topics discussed between Weinstein and Cunningham in Phoenix little doubt revolved around the content of Cunningham’s communications with Main Justice, before the DOJ published its false February 4, 2011 letter. It also seems that DOJ changed its tune quite a bit, after Weinstein's trip to Phoenix.  Yet, Mr. Cunningham cannot ethically or legally disclose what he said to Main Justice until, at a minimum, a civil court pierces executive privilege. If executive privilege is Cunningham's only issue, this might be the first thread Congress pulls, to see whether it all unravels.

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Update - Senator Chuck Grassley wrote a letter today to Eric Holder asking for for information about a memo from an ATF special agent that:
  • provided DOJ officials important information about what, in fact, was happening in Operation Fast and Furious;
  • traveled rapidly through the chain of command at ATF and was allegedly forwarded to DOJ headquarters on February 3, 2011, and; 
  • caused such a stir that ATF planned to put a panel together to address the allegations but someone within DOJ suppressed it.
Andy McCarthy has a great piece describing how "Main Justice stays in close contact with with all OCDETF cases  There is a Phoenix office ...

47 posted on 07/03/2012 10:32:56 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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Considering that there is an unknown source, a “deep throat,” providing information to the committee, Holder is trapped. The cover up must be really big.

You go Issa, Grassley. Don’t let go.


48 posted on 07/03/2012 11:31:08 PM PDT by dervish (ABO)
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