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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

Hey Genius,

I think a bunch of socialists engineered Obamacare, not the pharmaceutical companies. It really paid off for GlaxoSmithKline to get fined $3 billion, didn’t it? Yea, that’s some smart marketing there for you.

You and a number of others on this thread sure don’t sound like conservatives. You are the bunch of knee jerkers going off because some big pharmaceutical got fined and you think it’s justified.


18 posted on 07/02/2012 7:04:15 PM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: caver; To-Whose-Benefit?

Why are you attacking the poster?

He came with links and much info....You on the other hand called him names.

Lemme guess, you’re invested in this company?


19 posted on 07/02/2012 7:25:24 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: caver; dragnet2; CutePuppy; redgolum

Caver, define your concept of Conservative, please.

1: crony capitalism:

When did crony capitalism, knowing, intentional, ongoing conduct constituting direct violations of activities already prohibited by law, and socialist redistribution become Conservative Values?

Here’s what it costs drug companies to Buy FDA approval for their products.
PDUFA user fee archive
http://www.fda.gov/ForIndustry/UserFees/PrescriptionDrugUserFee/ucm152775.htm

Here’s what Congress has just done
PDUFA fee increase
http://www.fiercepharma.com/story/pdufa-goes-president/2012-06-27

“The FDA user fee reauthorization bill has passed Congress and now only needs to be signed by President Obama. It kicks off a five-year stretch in which the FDA will have more money and new authorities in hopes that it will approve drugs faster (which is good for the industry) and theoretically cut costs for consumers and taxpayers through faster approval of generics.
The law will provide more than $6 billion in user fees over the five years”

Before the recent PDUFA user fee increase, FDA was already receiving over a Fifth of its operating budget from drug and device manufacturers. Do you find any potential conflict of interest there? Whose interests do you believe FDA is more concerned with protecting? The consumer or the manufacturer? Up from $600 Million to $1.2 Billion a year?

2: GSK Illegal Conduct

Engaging in monetary transactions in property derived from specified unlawful activity.
US 18C95 Sec 1957
http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/18C95.txt

3: Socialism
Most of those tens of Billions flowing into GSK’s coffers are Not a Voluntary Financial Transaction on your part or anyone else’s part. Those tens of Billions are predominantly coming out of Medicare and Medicaid through the Center for Medicare Services. You are being forced, by Government, to Pay GSK those tens of Billions.

http://pogoblog.typepad.com/pogo/2011/08/janet-woodcock-miss-piñata-meets-clue-stick.html#more
http://pogoblog.typepad.com/pogo/2011/08/the-national-institutes-of-health-new-ethics-rules-a-swing-and-a-miss.html
http://www.pogo.org/pogo-files/letters/public-health/ph-fda-20120529-fda-secrecy.html

FDA is a trainwreck of industry corrupted politicking. The author, Paul Thacker, has street cred. He was Sen. Charles Grassley’s chief investigator when Grassley on the Senate Finance Committee was investigating drug industry corruption of Medical Research at the University level. Crooked Academics were taking Big Money from drug makers and not reporting it while simultaneously ginning up crap research which was used as a marketing device to sell and oversell drug company products.

Paxil Study 329
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=paxil+329+study&gbv=2&oq=paxil%2B329&gs_l=hp.1.1.0i33l2j0i33i30l2.920.7057.0.9953.11.10.1.0.0.0.474.1976.0j4j4j0j1.9.0...0.0.UR5tHNRX9TE

Study 329 is very old news, and barely the tip of the iceberg.

When did crony capitalism, criminal misconduct, and socialist redistribution become Conservative Values?

There are far more Federal Criminal statutes which are applicable to GSK just for their Seroxat, Paxil and the 1 I’ve quoted, if You violate it, will get You jail time in a heartbeat. Is it a Conservative Value to look the other way when You are being charged through CMS to sell Suicide and Murder at GSK’s behest?


25 posted on 07/03/2012 9:41:39 AM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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