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Romney on Romneycare: First Subsidize, Then Mandate
cnsnews.com ^ | February 8, 2012 | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 07/02/2012 10:16:39 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

(CNSNews.com) - In a presentation about his health-care reform plan delivered at the Heritage Foundation on Jan. 6, 2006, then-Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney said that for his plan to work it would be necessary to first subsidize health insurance for a segment of the population not already receiving government health-care subsidies and then mandate that everyone in the state buy health insurance.

To do otherwise, Romney said, “would be crazy.” His speech was accompanied by a Powerpoint presentation that graphically laid out some of the basics of his proposal and the health insurance situation that then prevailed in Massachusetts.

On April 12, 2006, three months after he spoke at Heritage, Romney signed his landmark health-care reform proposal into law. The law said that people earning up to 300 percent of the federal poverty level would get subsidies to buy insurance. (The federal poverty level for a family of four is now $23,050, according to the Department of Human Services. That means a family of four earning up $69,150 per year now qualifies for health-insurance subsidies in Massachusetts.)

“And then, finally, something I am going to call the personal responsibility principle,” Romney told the Heritage Foundation. “You may call this an individual mandate. I don’t. I call it the personal responsibility principle.

“Let me make it real clear: To tell people in our society today that they have to go out and buy insurance would be unfair and wrong. Because right now, they don’t have products they can afford,” said Romney. “And if people are poor, they don’t have any subsidy that they can rely on to help them get a product. So, it would be crazy to say to people, hey, you’re [un]insured, you better go get it. They can’t afford it.

“But once we put in place the reforms I am describing, with new affordable products as well as a subsidized product, where your premium can be as low as $2.30 a week, now everybody can get insurance,” said Romney. “And that’s basically what this slide says. And that is, look, now that we have these products available for you, we want everybody to get insurance and you have responsibility of having insurance, and we are going to mandate that you have insurance.

“Now, how do we mandate it?” said Romney. “Well, I won’t spend a lot of time on this, other than to indicate that we are going to insist that everybody be covered one way or the other and that those who don’t comply have certain problems. They are going to lose their personal tax exemption. We will withhold any of their tax refund. We will keep it in an account at the state level which we will be able to tap to pay the hospital if they go there for free care. The legislature has also put in place consideration of not providing drivers’ licenses to people unless they can show their health insurance coverage, and so forth.

“We also, I just note there, we also, if people go and get free care and don’t pay for it, we go after them,” said Romney. “We garnish wages if we have to make sure that we get paid. People are either going to buy insurance or they are going to pay for their own care. They’re not going to say, I got care and you, Mr. Taxpayer, or you Mrs. Premium Payer, you have to pay for me.”

Later in the presentation, Romney said: “The money follows the person not the institution. We give money to individuals to allow them to buy insurance. We do not give Medicaid money to hospitals, and say, gosh, you got a lot of uninsured that you care for so we are going to give you a check this year for $50 million. No, the state and the federal government give the money to individuals to buy insurance and they get to go to whichever providers they want to go to.”


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: deathpanels; romney; romney4obamacare; romneycare; romneycare4all
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To: SoConPubbie
So that makes it right?

Or does it even make it conservative?

People can polish the turd Romney all they want to, all the polish in the world isn't going to make him a conservative. He's the opposite of all things conservative, he is a stinking liberal, always has been and always will be. I don't vote for liberals any more, J. McCain was the last ever and J. McCain is a shining conservative compared to Romney.

21 posted on 07/02/2012 11:32:12 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (If you quote Mitt Romney you don't have to spin.- Lady Lucky)
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To: Graybeard58
People can polish the turd Romney all they want to, all the polish in the world isn't going to make him a conservative. He's the opposite of all things conservative, he is a stinking liberal, always has been and always will be. I don't vote for liberals any more, J. McCain was the last ever and J. McCain is a shining conservative compared to Romney.

Amen!
22 posted on 07/02/2012 11:36:33 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: Graybeard58

Come the election in November, there is one of two men who will be elected to be the President of the United States for the next four years. It will be either Barrack Obama or Mitt Romney. Of that, there is no doubt. There is no Ross Perot or Teddy Roosevelt and his Bull Moose party out there that is even a viable third party.

Question, out of the above two mentioned, who is most likely to repeal Obamacare?


23 posted on 07/02/2012 11:57:05 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden; Graybeard58
Come the election in November, there is one of two men who will be elected to be the President of the United States for the next four years. It will be either Barrack Obama or Mitt Romney. Of that, there is no doubt. There is no Ross Perot or Teddy Roosevelt and his Bull Moose party out there that is even a viable third party.

Question, out of the above two mentioned, who is most likely to repeal Obamacare?


Since Romney has pledged to repeal and REPLACE and Romney still believes in the Individual Mandate in his RomneyCare, just that it should be implemented at the state level, the correct answer to your question, in real terms, is neither.
24 posted on 07/02/2012 12:03:09 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Fortunately on the replace part, he still has to work with the pubbies in the legislature to pass anything.


25 posted on 07/02/2012 12:32:31 PM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

As liberal as Mitt is, all he’ll need to do is appeal to the democrats and the RINOs will back him up. Dems + RINOs = majority in Congress. Even some of the more conservative republicans will vote with him because he is a “republican.” The dems will be happy he is such a “fair” guy.

Anyone who dreams Romney’s feet can be “held to the fire,” is delusional. There a too many socialists, elites, and RINOs currently in the republican party to even nominate a conservative. What makes you think these same republicans will be able to stop him from passing all the socialism in the world he wants with the combined help of the democrats?


26 posted on 07/02/2012 1:06:13 PM PDT by Waryone
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To: SoConPubbie

Of course it doesn’t make it right...but it does make the point that one isn’t necessarily a socialist just because they support a health care system like the one Romney installed in MA. I hate it as much as any other Freeper and know that it was the model...ar at least one of the models...for obamacare. I just refuse to write off our chances for beating obama because I don’t like Romneycare.


27 posted on 07/02/2012 1:36:18 PM PDT by pgkdan (ANYBODY BUT OBAMA!)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Question, out of the above two mentioned, who is most likely to repeal Obamacare?

The probability approaches zero on both accounts. How about we vote for a conservative candidate instead? Even if he doesn't win, we're no further behind.


28 posted on 07/02/2012 1:44:32 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: pgkdan
Of course it doesn’t make it right...but it does make the point that one isn’t necessarily a socialist just because they support a health care system like the one Romney installed in MA.

Sorry, but I don't buy that postulation.

If you support a system that redistributes wealth and does that by implementing an individual mandate, YOU ARE A SOCIALIST. Furthermore, add in the rest of the corraborating evidence where Mitt Romney is concerned, and there should be no argument on the fact that Romney is a lying, left-wing, Progressive Liberal:

Romney did the following or held the following positions:

1. Implemented his own brand of socialized medicine including a $50 dollar abortion.
2. Implemented his own "Assault" weapon ban, EVEN AFTER the Federal AWB was allowed to expire.
3. Supported the Brady Bill
4. Tried real hard to implemente a regional Carbon Cap-and-Trade system and came real close.
5. Supported abortion wholeheartedly
6. Implemented Gay Marriage in MA, effectively making him the Father of Gay Marriage in America
7. Supported Global Warming.
8. Raised Fees/Taxes by $700 million.
9. Supported TARP
10. Supported Amnesty for Illegal Immigration (Supported McCain-Kennedy)
11. Nominated 27 out 36 radical left-wing, progressive liberals to MA courts.
29 posted on 07/02/2012 2:50:00 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Romney will NEVER repeal RomneyCARE.

NEVER. It is HIS signal achievement other than
imposing gay marriage.


30 posted on 07/03/2012 5:06:46 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: alloysteel
Mitt might be some kind of skunk, but for now, he is OUR skunk.

Speak for yourself.

31 posted on 07/03/2012 5:14:19 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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