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Galway strongly warned of plan for statue of Che Guevara by top American politician
Irish Central ^ | July 1, 2012 | JAMES O'SHEA,

Posted on 07/02/2012 7:39:36 AM PDT by george76

Galway city has been warned a proposed statue of revolutionary Che Guevara will be a deep insult to many Americans by the influential head of the House Foreign Affairs Committee Congresswoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen of Florida.

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Galway’s beautiful beaches and vibrant arts festival will be marred with a memorial to a man who wished to end their way of life and violently replace it with tyranny.”

Che, full name Ernesto Guevara Lynch, had Irish links. A festival in his honor was arranged for nearby County Clare earlier this year.

Guevara's Irish links have been traced to Galway, and one Patricio Lynch, the founder of the Argentine branch of his family, was said to have been born in Galway in 1715. From there he spent some time in Spain before eventually settling in Argentina.

Galway City Council agreed to erect a statue in his honor but it has proven a highly controversial move.

American politicians, especially those of Cuban descent have strongly objected.

“The romanticized reputation of Ernesto “Che” Guevara as a liberator and freedom fighter is nothing more than a myth of the Cuban revolution. In reality, Guevara was a mass murderer and a bigot.” Ros-Lehtinen wrote.

“Che Guevara embodied hatred.

(Excerpt) Read more at irishcentral.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Cuba; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Florida; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: che; cheguevara; galway; guevara; ireland
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To: miss marmelstein

I agree, there was very little open anti-semitism in Ireland during the era of the Third Reich. But there was definitely sympathy for the Nazis among anti-Anglos. I have two Irish grandparents, my father’s mother and my mother’s father, both of whom died in the 1930’s, before my parents married. My father’s mother was basically uneducated shanty Irish, and I know next to nothing of her political beliefs. My mother’s father’s family was lace curtain Irish-Catholic and at least somewhat anglophilic. My grandfather lied about his age to join the Army in 1917. He traveled to Germany on a tramp steamer after failing German at MIT, and spent the summer of 1920 in Hamburg learning enough German to get through engineering school. He died in 1939, but left behind translations of some startlingly bad Nazi books. Not Nazi books in the sense that they had the imprint of the Third Reich, but Nazi in the sense that they were written by prominent Nazi “thinkers”.

Like a lot of engineers, and other educated people, he was susceptible to the half-baked gimcrack “intellectual” nonsense that was in the air in the 1930s.


21 posted on 07/02/2012 8:53:38 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans!)
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To: george76

As the song goes, “There are twice as many pigeons now will come and sit on me”


22 posted on 07/02/2012 8:54:50 AM PDT by omega4412
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To: miss marmelstein
There is a bit of truth to that. The Fenians and all the others since used the the Irish in the US as their fund raising base. A Army SOF officer whose father and uncles were NYPD got a lot of grief for tackling their support of NORAID and there being an active NORAID chapter in the NYPD. Eventually he got permission to give a sanitized intel brief on how the IRA and the IRA-P were Col K's buddies and were being turned into Soviet proxies. It did end most of the formal NORAID action in much of the NYPD but there was still grumbling that this officer was becoming a pommie b-stard.
23 posted on 07/02/2012 8:55:12 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: robowombat

The problem with the Irish blaming the USA is that they continue to think that the majority of Americans are of Irish descent; therefore, all Americans support the IRA. Ridiculous! Most Americans were disgusted by the activities of the out-of-control terrorists on both sides of the issue.


24 posted on 07/02/2012 9:06:48 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Wow! Luckily, my family were all grateful to have escaped the Famine and other horrors so they were very pro-America. They did hate the English and it wasn’t until I took my mother to London that she changed her mind! I never heard a nice word about Hitler or a bad word about Jews. But, then, they all were drafted into WWII.


25 posted on 07/02/2012 9:12:10 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein
I think my grandfather respected Germans, he was an engineer, and he had been to Germany, after all. I don't think he was as necessarily antisemitic as philo-germanic. I remember he had a German song book that predated Hitler. It a version of the Schnitzelbank song, which celebrated 'der Juden Meyer' ( I forget what he was rhymed with.) The objects in the book were illustrated with pen and ink drawings (Teller Butter, Schwiegermutter). 'Der Juden Meyer' was depicted with long Hassidic like dread locks, and ironically described as "oh du schoene, oh du feine Juden Meyer", "Oh you beatiful, oh you fine Jew Meyer." Remember, this is pre-third Reich.

I went to Catholic high school and I do remember my Irish-American classmates referring to f***ing Jew bastards, but probably just to get a rise from me. I wish I could say that I refused to take the bait, but actually, I was shocked, but didn't react. If I had to do over, I would have ridiculed their inane racism.

26 posted on 07/02/2012 9:27:58 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans!)
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To: george76
http://img.breitbart.com/images/2007/10/19/D8SCGAA80/D8SCGAA80.jpg

Pic of Chavez's memorial to Che' soon after it was erected. Seems even in Venezuela they know what kind of slithering vermin that he actually was.

27 posted on 07/02/2012 9:46:17 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Tax-chick

Wacky Irish Bump!


28 posted on 07/02/2012 10:20:45 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Did you go to school in Boston? I’m lucky that I missed most antisemitism. My High School was heavily Jewish so it never occurred to anyone to be nasty. I went to Catholic grammar school but never heard that stuff either. Maybe I suppressed it!


29 posted on 07/02/2012 11:23:46 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

No, I went to high school in Queens, in the Brooklyn Archdiocese. I had Jewish friends growing up, and many, many more in college. I don’t think it was really antisemitism, they were just trying to get a rise out of me, since I was extremely “liberal” for a Catholic high school kid of my day.


30 posted on 07/02/2012 11:28:55 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Ah, got it. I went to grammer school in Queens and high school in NJ.

Nice to talk to you!


31 posted on 07/02/2012 11:34:18 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
England's Peril
Is Ireland's Opportunity

32 posted on 07/05/2012 7:50:31 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and FU Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: ScottinVA

For God’s sake, if any country should know what it means to be ruled by tyranny, it’d be the Irish.”

Well, blaming everything, all the time, on the British, is something very different from having a philosophy of liberty.

The Irish are basically a nation and race of begrudgers. They begrudge success, they mock initiative, they make fun of ambition, they belittle anyone who they see as too big for their boots. Envy and sloth are the main virtues of the Irish. (Though they do have sharp wits to help express it).

Che, of course, promises the “have nots” that they rich got rich on the backs of the poor, and that the poor have only the rich to blame for their plight.

So, while sure, the Irish have tasted tyranny, a thousand years from now, they are still going to be hoping for “Che” to bring them prosperity and they are still going to be blaming the British for everything....


33 posted on 07/05/2012 11:48:37 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: ConservativeDude

I think its a bit ridiculous to make British rule in Ireland the benchmark for awfulness. Granted, it wasn’t all sweetness and light, but frankly, I think we can all agree that there were far, far worse examples to point to...


34 posted on 07/05/2012 12:14:22 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

well said


35 posted on 07/05/2012 12:32:36 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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