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The Carbon Charade Continues
thedailybel ^ | Monday, June 25, 2012 | by Staff Report

Posted on 06/30/2012 3:44:05 PM PDT by dennisw

The Carbon Charade Continues

Monday, June 25, 2012 – by Staff Report

MPs have no idea how to meet the 'carbon' target they voted for ... When readers asked their MPs to explain how the UK would cut emissions by 80 per cent, the answers made worrying reading ... The great scare has long been dying on its feet, but that sad fiasco of a conference in Rio last week saw it finally dead and buried. "It's pathetic, it's appalling," wailed a spokesman for , one of the thousands of green activists who flew to Rio, many at taxpayers' expense, to see the last rites read over their lost dream. Their cause has even been abandoned by one of its most outspoken champions, the green guru James Lovelock of "Gaia" fame, who now admits that the warming scare was all a tragic mistake, and that talk of "sustainable development" is just "meaningless drivel." – UK Telegraph

Dominant Social Theme: It's very hot in here, and you better be scared!

Free-Market Analysis: This is a pretty incredible observation – that British politicians have no idea how they are going to attain the "goals" they voted for regarding the removal of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.

This ludicrous assertion will surely go down as a case of mass hysteria. The idea that one can achieve a target of an 80 percent reduction – yes 80 percent! – is only outdone by the idea that the world NEEDS this sort of reduction.

There are two gases necessary to life on this planet, and one of them is carbon dioxide. Even if the Earth WERE warming, and there are grave doubts about it, removing 80 percent of carbon from the atmosphere would more likely have the effect of, well ... choking us than freezing us.

It is really a case of the Emperor's New Clothes writ large. The behind this nonsense has promoted it heavily over the past decade. Fortunately, the larger population has rejected the idea of carbon capture as rubbish. It is perfectly predictable, however, that politicians have not. Here's more from the article:

The "epic failure" of Rio, as Friends of the Earth called it, is an apt cue to recall how this leaves Britain as the only country in the world committed by law to cut its emissions of carbon dioxide by 80 per cent in less than 40 years. The Climate Change Act, on the Government's own figures, faces us with a bill of up to £18 billion every year until 2050, making it by far the most costly law ever passed by Parliament.

More important still, however, this raises the question: how do all those MPs who voted almost unanimously for this target (only three voted against it) think we can meet this obligation without closing down virtually our entire economy?

This is the question which, in April, I invited readers to put to their MPs, and I am very grateful to all those who have now sent me the replies they received, from nearly 50 MPs. These, I fear, are even more depressing than I anticipated.

The article's author, Christopher Booker, goes on to explain most of his responses seemed to rely on a form letter supplied by the Department of Energy and Climate Change that began with the sentence: "Decarbonisation does not mean de-industrialisation."

Some used the letter; others simply signed their own names to it. Apparently, Booker received correspondence from climate change minister Greg Barker, who "chirped about the Green Deal, Renewables Incentives and ."

Others claimed that onshore wind would provide a low-carbon energy future, one that would create an additional half-million jobs by the year 2020. The "silliest response," Booker writes, came from Oliver Letwin, who claimed the costs of the Climate Change Act had been greatly exaggerated. This, Booker notes, was unfortunate, as the numbers came from the government's own DECC website. Letwin also claimed that solar, wind and carbon capture were becoming so efficient that they "will be able to operate without subsidies."

As reader after reader observed, not a single MP addressed the question. Not one had done any serious homework or showed the slightest practical grasp of how electricity is made and how our transport system is powered. They merely regurgitated irrelevant, jargon-ridden propaganda passed on to them by others. As one reader put it: "What is infinitely depressing is that all these idiots believe the nonsense they are fed."

Booker points out that Britain depends on CO2-emitting fossil fuels for 75 per cent of its electricity and almost all of the transport system. Arguing that renewables such as wind and solar will do the job seems a kind of non-starter, he explains, as both wind and solar are undependable and demand a fossil fuel backup.

The most important point of the article, however, is that British pols voted for an 80 percent reduction in atmospheric carbon with no plan in place to achieve the reductions and no idea of what the consequences would be in any case. This only reaffirms our perception that Western politicians generally are controlled by a larger, private power elite that promotes these fear-based "scarcity" promotions in order to propound world government.

Whatever it is that the top elites (who want to run the world) propose, these rubber stamp Western parliaments and congresses will apparently approve, no matter how nonsensical.

Democracy under these conditions is certainly a farce. It's a bought-and-paid-for performance that has little or nothing to do with the "welfare" of the larger mass of people and everything to do with obeying the dictates of a small group of enormously powerful people who promote these to frighten middle classes into accepting increasing amounts of .

It is evidently and obviously a lie that Western democratic governments are anything but the obedient mechanisms of the modern power elite. It is surely illustrated by the votes of one of the oldest parliaments in the world to extract 80 percent of carbon from the atmosphere and then "sequester" it.

Conclusion: One is apt to wish that they "choke" on the atmosphere they wish so cavalierly and thoughtlessly to produce.



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1 posted on 06/30/2012 3:44:11 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

In the likely scenario where the sun is the cause of fluctuations in earth temperature, won’t be depleting a protective shield? Doesn’t CO2 reflect the sun’s heat?


2 posted on 06/30/2012 4:17:02 PM PDT by wizwor
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To: dennisw

Extra junk in the atmosphere blocks the sun not cause it to warm, a meteor hitting earth caused an ice age according to the scientists !!!!!


3 posted on 06/30/2012 4:39:21 PM PDT by Foolsgold (L I B Lacking in Brains)
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To: dennisw
There are two gases necessary to life on this planet, and one of them is carbon dioxide. Even if the Earth WERE warming, and there are grave doubts about it, removing 80 percent of carbon from the atmosphere would more likely have the effect of, well ... choking us than freezing us.

Removing 80% of the carbon from the atmosphere would be technically challenging. Furthermore, one would have to remove a lot more than 80% of atmospheric carbon to see an 80% drop in carbon concentration in the air.

Think of a sealed fish tank. Suppose someone decides that they want to remove 80% of the vapor in the air above the water. So they use some means to extract the vapor from the air space. Since the vapor content of the air wants to remain constant, water in the tank evaporates to replace what was removed. So more vapor is extracted and more water evaporates. There can be no meaningful change in vapor content of the air in the tank until after all of the water evaporates. At that point, the fish are long dead...

Trying to remove atmospheric carbon dioxide will have much the same effect. Only, with removal of atmospheric CO2, plants will become unable to extract CO2 from the air, and they will die. Not all plants, but only those that need the highest CO2 concentrations. When they die, they will decay, causing the release of CO2 back into the air. There will not be a meaningful reduction in CO2 concentration until a significant proportion of the biomass is dead.

I wonder what minimum concentration of CO2 plants need in order to extract it from the air, and how close we are to that minimum. CO2 levels have already dropped drastically in the last few million years...

4 posted on 06/30/2012 4:57:48 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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