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To: Will88
One incident of bad behavior by a group of kids does not make them kids who must be put in a special school. If these kids have been general troublemakers and have other serious incidents of bad behavior, then the punishment probably fits. But if this is the only incident, the punishment is definitely too severe.

Did you watch the video? These kids weren't little angels who decided one day to just say "Hey, let's insult, denigrate, threaten, demean, put our hands on and disrespect an old lady today until she cries." They were practiced. They were bold enough to do it, record it, AND post the recording. That's bad enough...but she was also an authority figure. Those kids were bold enough to insult, denigrate, threaten, demean, put their hands on and disrespect a person who was in a position of authority over them. How well she represented that authority is irrelevant.

If they had punched her in the face would you make the same argument that this could have been the first time they punched someone in the face so they should not be severely punished?

204 posted on 07/01/2012 4:19:33 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

You watched a video and then made all sorts of assumptions about these kids in general. Sometimes generally good kids get in a group and do an especially dumb thing. Most kids have the potential to become part of bad group behavior.

Unless these kids have a history of trouble making in school situations, this punishment is too severe for that one incident. It’s not too encouraging to see so many supposed adults on this thread jump to all sorts of conclusions and assume these kids are bad to the core when very little information about them is available.

I guarantee things like this happened before youtube showed them to the entire world, and that they were handled differently than this incident. Factoring in the emotional reaction of the public in general is not a good addition to school discipline problems, or the criminal justice system.


205 posted on 07/01/2012 4:35:08 AM PDT by Will88
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To: DouglasKC
Every child on that bus ( and likely in that school) **knows** that at any moment that this bullying and those threats of violence could be directed at them. Not for a moment do I think that this was an isolated incident that merely occurred on this bus, or was solely directed at this one woman, nor do I think that these feral thuglings are the only bullies in the school.

Can you imagine the hopelessness of the children **forced** by the government and their parents to put up with these threats of emotional and (possible) physical violence day, after day, after hopeless day???? These kids are TRAPPED! Not only is bullying abusive for the one who is attacked, it is an emotional threat to all who witness it!

Wow! ...Yet...I bet in September this school, and thousands of other prison-like schools across the land, will be filled the brim with kids. Free government babysitting is powerfully addictive and the addicted parents will fully believe the the prison guards ( oops! teachers and principal) that **this time** it really is”fixed”. ( eye roll!)

Ask yourself, the next time you drive by a government school, “Does this look like a prison? The next time you see a school bus, ask, “Does that look like prison work gang transport?”

IF WE TREAT CHILDREN LIKE PRISONERS WE WILL SEE PRISON PATHOLOGY!

207 posted on 07/01/2012 5:15:45 AM PDT by wintertime
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