Posted on 06/30/2012 8:55:48 AM PDT by chessplayer
There are actually two polls out tonight on this, but being a dirty, dirty eeyore, I had to lead with the pessimistic one. As a prelude to the data, here’s Wesley Smith writing yesterday at The Corner:
"I think there is a lot of whistling past the graveyard going on among conservatives who think that Obamacare is really in the political crosshairs now, and indeed, could lead to the defeat of the president’s reelection effort. I worry that the opposite is true. Sure, opponents who care a lot about the constitutionality and policy propriety of the ACA are very upset and motivated to defeat the president. But they already were. For the relatively uninvolved, the message of the Roberts ruling, despite the justice’s protests to the contrary, is that Obamacare is A-okay. That will increase the law’s popularity — just as Roe v. Wade did with abortion. Alas."
The results will likely be different once the clueless find
out this Soviet-style crap is not free.
Many BELIEVE obama will be defeated in November, but remember this, many thought obamacare was going to be struck down, too.
Got that right.
Just look at all the 'in your face' stunts he is engaged in recently in particular.
The other thing is that he can’t run against the Supreme Court, which he was all set to do.
OOPSIE!!!!
corps = corpse
Sorry.
I really wonder about that now. If the Massachusetts mandate was structured as a tax, then it would be Constitutional under this ruling. It would be unconstitutional under a commerce clause expansion. But, I doubt there is an “interstate commerce clause” in the Massachusetts Constitution. So for the first time, there likely is a distinction to be made between Obozocare and Romneycare. One was structured and passed as a tax; the other one was snuck through under the lie it was not a tax. “Taxation with misrepresentation.” If I were Romney, I would now challenge opponents of Romneycare to initiate a court challenge to it (he ain’t winning Massachusetts anyway.)
This poll is whether or not they agreed with the legal decision. Not if they support it.
If you look deeper...
Those who want some form of repeal is 52%
Those who want it to remain or expanded is 38%.
Obama still loses.
The other thing is that he can’t run against the Supreme Court, which he was all set to do.Correct.
Part of me wants to believe that Roberts did this to stick it to Obama. After all, there was that stumble during the oath-swearing at the inaugural. Maybe that meant nothing, maybe that meant everything. If it meant everything, it still doesn't excuse Roberts for his inexcusable dereliction of duty... and what it says about his willingness to roll the dice (WTF happens with all this if Obama wins re-election????) is chilling.
But nevertheless, the argument is out there and I can't entirely dismiss it: Roberts has shivved the ChoomMaster.
As a piece of suggestive evidence I offer this:
The Botox Queen said "let's take yes for an answer".
Why would she say that if it was an unmitigated good for her side?
Obviously, she doesn't think it is.
Neither does Palin (who I greatly respect), and neither does Morris (who's arguments I think often make sense).
Obamacare will be revoked.
Many also ‘believed’ the GOP would retake the Congress in 2010 as well.
Lots of people were excited about the 2010 elections. While the results were good, I wasn’t that excited.
Yes, there are always individuals such as yourself, who take every defeat as decisive, and every victory as unimportant.
All the SC did was say that it was 'legal'.
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