[fr_freak]

We should not rely upon the SCUS to do our dirty work for us. Time to roll up our sleeves and get the job done ourselves this November. (I'd like to think this might have been the message Roberts was trying to send.)

I think you are engaging in some seriously tortured logic in order to make sense of what Roberts did. Granted, the citizenry should not be electing greedy elitist halfwits to the Congress, but when the franchise was extended to women and non-productive men, that was an inevitability. However, your logic implies that the design of our government is such that the voting mob has the power to do whatever it wants. That was actually the opposite of the Founders' intentions.

So, you'll have to explain to me, if it is not the job of the Supreme Court to judge bills passed by Congress for their Constitutionality, then why do we have a Supreme Court? And if the Constitution is NOT a limit on the powers of Congress, then why do we bother having a Constitution?

[SamAdams76]

However, your logic implies that the design of our government is such that the voting mob has the power to do whatever it wants. That was actually the opposite of the Founders' intentions.

True and true. Not that I'm happy about it but it's the environment we operate in. I'm quite sure that the Founding Fathers did not intend for our nation to end up like this.

The Supreme Court is ultimately a product of the presidents we have been electing for the past 40 years. Aside from perhaps Reagan, all of them have been either liberals or RINOs. Thus we cannot be surprised at the results.

The reason we cannot seem to get a truly conservative president is because candidates for the job must appeal to women, who in large part have liberal, big-government views. Now I know there are some great conservative women out there but even they have to admit that they are in the minority. Increasingly, presidential candidates must also pander to the non-productive members of society in order to get elected. The welfare class and what not.

I would love to live in a republic where only tax-paying citizens had the right to vote. But you know and I know that is just not going to happen. So we must work hard to convert enough people to the Tea Party/conservative cause where we can start electing people who share our views.

I believe that we have a chance to make some inroads this November. A lot of people who thought they were liberal or "moderate" now see the Ponzi scheme that is welfare, food stamps, socialized medicine, etc. They are realizing that the center can no longer hold. Unless we reverse direction, we are going to lose everything.

We need to win those people over and we need to get out and vote this November to drive these big-government socialists out of power once and for all.