Why Chief Justice Roberts Made the Right Long-Term Decision With ObamaCare

Independent Journal Review ^ | June 28, 2012 | I.M. Citizen

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It’s important that you think carefully about the meaning – the true nature — of his ruling on Obama-care. The Left will shout that they won, that Obama-care was upheld and all the rest. Let them. It will be a short-lived celebration.

Here’s what really occurred — payback. Yes, payback for Obama’s numerous, ill-advised and childish insults directed toward SCOTUS.

Chief Justice Roberts actually ruled the mandate, relative to the commerce clause, was unconstitutional. That’s how the Democrats got Obama-care going in the first place. This is critical. His ruling means Congress can’t compel American citizens to purchase anything. Ever. The notion is now officially and forever, unconstitutional. As it should be.

Next, he stated that, because Congress doesn’t have the ability to mandate, it must, to fund Obama-care, rely on its power to tax. Therefore, the mechanism that funds Obama-care is a tax. This is also critical.

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Finally some people are beginning to connect the dots.

[FlingWingFlyer]

His ruling means Congress can’t compel American citizens to purchase anything. Ever.

However, they can "tax" the hell out of you if you drive a combustion engine car instead of an Obama Motors Voltswagen.

[mylife]

I like it.

[Signalman]

This is the part I like and it's where the libs are going to be really shocked:

Finally, he struck down as unconstitutional, the Obama-care idea that the federal government can bully states into complying by yanking their existing medicaid funding. Liberals, through Obama-care, basically said to the states — ‘comply with Obama-care or we will stop existing funding.’ Roberts ruled that is a no-no. If a state takes the money, fine, the Feds can tell the state how to run a program, but if the state refuses money, the federal government can’t penalize the state by yanking other funding. Therefore, a state can decline to participate in Obama-care without penalty. This is obviously a serious problem. Are we going to have 10, 12, 25 states not participating in “national” health-care? Suddenly, it’s not national, is it?"

[kevao]

Dumbass Roberts could have killed the monster today saying the mandate was unconstitutional because it was not passed by Congress as a tax. He would have made the exact same points as he is “credited” with making today *and* killed ObamaCare at the same time.

[mamelukesabre]

I dont’ get it.

The whole reason why obamacare existed in the first place was because the CBO could prove obamacare was a deficit reduction program. Right?

so now that we redefine it as a tax and we take away the fed’s ability to force states to comply...it can’t possibly STILL be a deficit reducing program can it? Is it now nullified if it is deficit expanding? Or what?

[dfwgator]

He would have made the exact same points as he is “credited” with making today *and* killed ObamaCare at the same time.

*In my best John Belushi voice* But Noooooooooooooooo!

[mamelukesabre]

I don’t think so. The democrat lawyers argued before the supreme court that it could be either a tax or a penalty. whichever was more constitutional.

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Yes, as it turns out, Congress can tax you for whatever they want, whether it's an activity or non-activity.

But, and this is a big but, it has to be passed by Congress AS A TAX. In full daylight, ie no back room deals conducted under the commerce clause, with its -0- accountability and 100% discretion.

And because it's only a tax, it can be terminated by the next Congress with a simple majority. Why are the "Bush Tax Cuts" still called the "Bush Tax Cuts"? Because they were/are a hallmark political ploy that conferred significant advantages to supporters.

Now, any politician, D or R, can run on a tax cut platform as a means of gutting the O-Tax.

[dragnet2]

I dont’ get it.

Hmmm...

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bump

[mylife]

I am sure Greg Abbott is working this even now, down here in Texas.

[dfwgator]

I trust Scalia’s judgement on this. Roberts isn’t worthy to shine Scalia’s shoes.

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"He would have made the exact same points as he is “credited” with making today *and* killed ObamaCare at the same time."

He? Who's "he", the big he? Look, Roberts is a constitutionalist; he's no dictator.

All he reaffirmed was, yes, Congress basically has unlimited power to tax. But they have to wield that power themselves, not delegate, nor hide behind the commerce clause.

So, suckas, everyone is now on the hook. Any exceptions, etc have to be passed by Congress. Good luck with that. This is going to turn out to be an epic 3rd rail - for those who vote to maintain the tax.

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“This is critical. His ruling means Congress can’t compel American citizens to purchase anything. Ever.”

Wait.... What?
I guess I’m pretty dense - I thought we lost?

[mamelukesabre]

You got a point there puke breath?

[nerdgirl]

Thanks for the link.

As somebody who’s been trying to sort through “what was Roberts thinking?” all day, and who has always had respect for him, even if I didn’t agree with every ruling...this is the kind of outcome I’d love to see.

While I’m still shell shocked and not sure what his exact intention was, all that really matters is the result and its impact on the ability to get rid of both Obamacare and Obama.

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However, they can “tax” the hell out of you if you drive a combustion engine car instead of an Obama Motors Voltswagen

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Yea well, what’s new.

[FirstFlaBn]

At best we have two years until the collapse. If Romney is in when it happens, he will become the next Hoover. Huge gains by the Dems in the subsequent election, then armed with today’s precedent, they will compel the evil rich people to invest their 401k money into union businesses or corrupt big city bonds or suffer an immediate 70% tax (taxing inactivity). That’s how it ends - and it requires today’s decision to make it work.

[dragnet2]

But, and this is a big but

Oh yeah!

Some like big butts....Clever tune...Thanks for that advise BTW.