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To: mojito

You’re just plain flat wrong. Go read some of the intelligent commentary on this issue. Hamilton and Madison debated whether the power to tax was strictly limited to enumerated powers of the federal government or largely unlimited as long as it served the general welfare. Hamilton favored the latter, Madison the former. Madison was right but HAMILTON WON. Roberts invented NOTHING. He simply forced the Dems to be honest about what they are doing.

The power to tax has been pretty much unlimited ever since that Madison/Hamilton debate.

The power to tax is not limited by Constitution but by politics, by the voters.

Man up. Roberts has not approved of Tax X or Tax Y or Tax level Z or Tax Level M. That’s for Congress to decide and if Congress taxes us unjustly then we, not Roberts, have to throw the bums out.


37 posted on 06/28/2012 5:37:11 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Houghton M.
You are flat out wrong.

Go read the dissents from the conservatives on the court.

Scalia, Kennedy, Thomas, and Alito Dissent: 'We Cannot Rewrite the Statute to Be What It Is Not' "Judicial tax-writing is particularly troubling."

41 posted on 06/28/2012 5:48:41 PM PDT by free me (Roberts killed America)
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To: Houghton M.
The power to tax is not limited by Constitution but by politics, by the voters.

Is Congress' power to tax really unlimited? For example, if Congress passed a $10,000 per-gun, per-year tax on firearm ownership (effectively making gun ownership impossible for a majority of the citizenry) would that be a legitimate tax function of the Congress, a violation of the Second Amendment, or both?

53 posted on 06/28/2012 7:32:19 PM PDT by kevao
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To: Houghton M.; free me
You're just plain wrong. In fact, it's even worse than I initially stated. The courts will now do the heavy lifting for Congress. Congress doesn't even have to call a tax a tax. The Congress can call what they do anything they think is politically expedient, and the courts will now come in after the fact and say “hey, Congress meant this to be a tax and as we all know Congress can tax anything they like, so Congress can do what ever they darn well please and it doesn't matter what the original intent may have been.”

Roberts today destroyed the Constitution. It's the worst decision of my lifetime. Worse than Roe. It might be the most evil decision since Dred Scott. And that lead to the civil war. And that's where we're headed.

55 posted on 06/28/2012 8:32:41 PM PDT by mojito
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