How much trouble are we in???? How gone is the country?
Right now, a “conservative” who’s been on this forum since 2002 is arguing with me via the private mail function that Roberts did the right and just thing. Because it is a “tax” it’s all good he says. I explained to him that what makes it unconstitutional is the fact that, yes, it’s a tax, but it’s a tax to do a thing which the fed gov is NOT entitled to do. I said to him that liberals and 5th graders don’t know of limited, enumerated powers but I thought conservatives on FR did. Here is his next mail to me and my response…
Dr. 2 Brains: “THE FED GOV HAS ZERO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AUTHORITY TO TAX AMERICANS TO PROVIDE HEALTH CARE, OR SS, OR MEDICARE, OR WELFARE, OR NEEDLES FOR CRACK HEADS, ETC, ETC. ETC. ETC. ETC. ETC”
The idiot: “Fair enough. Since I’m so ignorant and it’s such common knowledge, etc., it should be easy for you to point out which amendment repealed Article I, Section 8, Clause 1, and the 16th Amendment of the Constitution. I can’t find one. Or are you saying you’re anti-Constitutional?”
Dr. 2 Brains: “It is PRECISELY Art 1, Sec 8 that makes obama care unconstitutional. That is the enumeration, genius. It limits the fed gov to certain enumerated powers, forcing health care down our throats is not one of them. You have a very very very long way to go in your education.”
Tell your stalker that I agree with you, and that he should get lost.
Doc...give ‘im this...
“I’m sure a few state’s attorney’s general’s will now find the stones to make “Justice” Roberts get out his pen and provide the Court’s Constitutional definition of just exactly what a tax is....and perhaps he can also find enough gray matter to explain to us why this “special tax” is NOT a “head tax” or a “poll tax””
“A poll tax (head tax or capitation tax, per U.S. English usage) is a tax of a portioned, fixed amount applied to an individual in accordance with the census (as opposed to a percentage of income). When a corvée is commuted for cash payment, in effect it becomes a poll tax (and vice versa, if a poll tax obligation can be worked off). Head taxes were important sources of revenue for many governments from ancient times until the 19th century. There have been several famous (and infamous) cases of head taxes in history, notably a tax formerly required for voting in parts of the United States that was often designed to disenfranchise poor people, including African Americans, Native Americans, and white people of non-English descent (e.g., the Irish). In the United Kingdom, poll taxes were levied by the governments of John of Gaunt in the 14th C., Charles II in the 17th and Margaret Thatcher in the 20th century.
The word poll is an English word that once meant “head” - and still does, in some specialised contexts - hence the name poll tax for a per-person tax”