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To: sirchtruth
Let's agree on one thing: We will either have Obama another 4 years or Romney. Those are the ONLY two realistic choices for POTUS.

The POTUS is, let's be honest, irrelevant in a system where the Congress would constrain his actions. Further, the POTUS will not be held to account by the current Government, such is already proven beyond reasonable doubt. Question: Would a Republican congress hold Romney in check when it is proven not to do so for Obama? If so, why?

My argument: It would be better to get honest, just, people of integrity into the Congress and cede the presidency as a lost cause. (It is, even if we put G. Washington in office he would be blocked from doing right by this statist government; we need to cut out the idea that position-of-authority = right-and-just; ie that those in a position of authority should be always deferred to because of that position of authority. Ref the USSC in their recent decisions.)

And my point is Romney is not an anti-capitalist, American Idea hater.

He is a statist, and will do nothing of significance to reduce the size and scope of the government. Therefore, he is not a friend of freedom and liberty, but by his actions would show if not a hatred for America then at least indifference.

Among my choice for POTUS I have to do what I can legally to remove a person who is trying to destroy the greatest way of life and political system on the face of this earth and in the history of the world. Voting for Romney, even though it pains me so is the ONLY alternative.

And I refuse to give in on this point. Just because he'll keep things the same is no justification to vote for him: things are, in my mind, utterly intolerable. To [vote to] keep them that way is folly and would only prompt my conscience to condemn me; therefore I will not, and cannot, vote for Romney.

But I do wonder: what would it take for people to get fighting mad? Bloody angry. Worked up enough to right the evils to which we have become accustomed.

290 posted on 06/29/2012 12:47:59 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
My argument: It would be better to get honest, just, people of integrity into the Congress and cede the presidency as a lost cause.

WTH do you think happens now? The people who possess these traits you mentioned are sent to congress with the best intentions to change it and they end up falling into a system where they "think" they are powerless.

I view your argument as not wrong, to the contrary, you are mostly right, the problem is we are arguing two different issues I believe. The only thing which needs to change now is to remove Obama and his ilk from office and deal with Romney the rino later. However, now might be the right time where change is going to happen as you describe it in this election because people are so outraged by this SC decision.

My main point and what matters most in November is to remove the anti-capitalist, corporation hater in the WH.

Furthermore, under Romney the economy will immediately improve because people's outlook will change.

295 posted on 06/30/2012 4:22:28 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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