The TEA party is alive and well and fed up to the eyeballs with RINOs and the 'moderate' GOP establishment making fools of us, time and again, as happened in the primaries. The Republican convention will be the last chance to rectify this unhappy situation and if we blow it, it may well be the beginning of the end of America as we know it. I'm no cynic but this Supreme Court decision looks like it is going to usher in an era that America has never seen before - and it won't be pretty. We cannot sit on the sidelines, crying and complaining and allow this to happen while making cynical comments about how powerless we all are to stop it. We must fight - and I believe we will. It simply doesn't have to be this way.
How about a more current name for the mess...instead of Obamacare, call it what it is NOW...
JRobertscare.
Pronounced JuhRobertscare.
A name that will live in infamy.
I know it isn’t that simple. But I believe Roberts deserves it. But for him, Obamacare would be gone.
There’s little more to say at this point.
Romney, as much as I do not like it, was correct on his answers to his Romneycare. He said it was UP TO EACH INDIVIDUAL STATE to do whatever it chooses.
This ruling causes every state AND individual damage.
I will vote for the liberal for that reason and that reason alone. He got it correct.
A general strike is in order. All truckers, all people who are opposed to this should stop all work for at least three weeks and let the GD bastards see if they can survive without anything for that while. THE GD SOBS!!!
FYI
This election is no longer about Romney, or whining about how hes a moderate, blah blah...Its about saving the country, and making every last leftist voter SUCK IT..
Theres no time for Mittpicking...either vote Romney, or you’re with the socialists...Like W said, you are Either with us, or youre against us...
This vote in Nov will be the one I really hate.
Go into the booth, look at the candidates, hold your nose, and vote while crying “God help us all!”
I think Romney is being smart right now...he is waiting for Obama, Pelosi and Reid to make their public statements and then he is going to respond.
Romney may not be the ideal candidate, but he certainly has been adept at handling this stuff (well, better then McLaim anyway).
And you propose to solve that problem by electing a [monied] socialist? Ha!
According to SCOTUSBlog, while Chief Justice Roberts concluded the mandate is a tax, he also rejected the Commerce Clause arguments in favor of the mandate. This is significant, because it will limit the ability of Congress to adopt additional mandates in the future. No one will be able to claim such requirements are not a tax, and this will make such requirements more difficult to enact.
Equally important, the majority narrowed the Medicaid provisions substantially in a way that limits Congress’s power to impose conditions on the receipt of federal spending. Specifically, the Court held that Congress may attach conditions on the receipt of new money — in this case the Medicaid expansion — but that Congress may not condition the receipt of funds for separate, pre-existing programs on compliance with the conditions for the new program. In other words, if states refuse to go along with the Medicaid expansion, they don’t lose existing Medicaid funds. If my understanding is accurate, this opinion would mark the firmest limit on use of the spending power in decades, and could constrain lots of future mischief.
UPDATE: Just to underline the point about the spending clause, the vote to narrow the Medicaid expansion was 7–2, as Justices Breyer and Kagan joined the Chief on this.
The Supreme Court’s ruling on Social Security gave the precedent to let the present Court use the “tax” reasoning. In FLEMING vs. NESTOR the court ruled:
To engraft upon the Social Security system a concept of ‘accrued property rights’ would deprive it of the flexibility and boldness in adjustment to ever changing conditions which it demands.” The Court went on to say, “It is apparent that the non-contractual interest of an employee covered by the [Social Security] Act cannot be soundly analogized to that of the holder of an annuity, whose right to benefits is bottomed on his contractual premium payments.”
Social Security is not an insurance program at all. It is simply a payroll tax on one side and a welfare program on the other. Your Social Security benefits are always subject to the whim of 535 politicians in Washington.
The Court’s decision was not surprising. In an earlier case, Helvering v. Davis (1937), the Court had ruled that Social Security was not a contributory insurance program, saying, “The proceeds of both the employee and employer taxes are to be paid into the Treasury like any other internal revenue generally, and are not earmarked in any way.”
For 50 plus years the liberals have been transforming our country before our eyes. It may take many years to reverse course in order to win the war against the liberals. Losing one battle ought to reinforce the importance of November 2012 elections as the start of the renewing of America. We must vote in a veto proof majority in the Senate, retain the House and vote out BHO and his islamist, communist mafia. November is around the corner and 2014 is just around the bend.
This should be a call to arms to everyone to vote out the liberal elitist thugs and those on the right, i.e. RINO’s and their lackeys, who have become corrupted by the lure of power in DC.
We must be the iceberg to the 50 year liberal Titanic agenda, else we truly are a lost nation.
Either your Tax Money or your Freedom will be on that Obamacare Contract.
Totally agree.
Unfortunately terminal self-righteous stubbornness has set in among a small group here.
Also, unfortunately, they seem to feel it is their duty to clutter up every thread with their canned comments.
We need to start educating the people and politicians about the ability to impeach judges who violate their oaths of office and rip our constitution into pieces with ridiculous, twisted opinions. Fix this by impeaching 2 or 3 Supreme Court judges and a handful of 9th circus judges, and the rest will start actually following the law.
Also I believe all these people who will be now taxed, including Catholics, will file a huge class-action suit against Obama.
They can’t do this to us!
IF YOU HAVE AN EXTRA BUCK LIEING AROUND SEND IT TO ROMNEY OR T PARTY CANDIDATES WE HAVE TP GET OUR COUNTRY BACK.
…when you boil tea it gets stronger
they are going to be forced to lie how this will impact your life, for 2012 election
Sorry, but I'm just not playing their games any more. I suspect I'll be joined by many others.
No matter the outcome of the election in November, if 0bamacare isn't totally repealed, I will not comply. Let me be clear...
I WILL NOT COMPLY .
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You have us wrong. Romney is a great guy. It is Socialism that we rebel against.
Romney has a problem: He refuses to shed his Obama”care” Godfather Image.
Ponder this from another thread:
First you had better get Romney to drop his crap about it being “ - - - simply unacceptable - - - “ that 20 million Americans still aren’t covered by Health Insurance.
If Romney won’t dump his loyalty to the idea of an Insurance Safety net, then it is time to DUMP Romney with an ABSTAIN vote on the first ballot in Tampa.
BTW, Romney”care” safety net can easily be expanded into Obama”care” safety net without SOCTUS even lifting a finger.
Romney”care, “ Obama”Care;” Obamalite, Obama, Treedle Dumb or Tweedle Dumber, eeney, meeney, miney ——what difference does it make?!
Sorry folks. I disagree with a lot of FReepers on this: this a hands down win. Chief justice Arnold with one ruling did what no one else could: showed beyond a reasonable doubt that the game we’re playing is rigged.
We can’t win a rigged game. Period. The only way we win is to either change the rules of the game or pick up our marbles and walk away. Or both.