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High court upholds key part of Obama health law
AP ^ | 06-28-12 | Mark Sherman

Posted on 06/28/2012 7:29:46 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA

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To: floozy22
Thanks!

The doomsayers will probably not like those points - but it seems to me that they would rather curse the darkness than light a candle.

Elections are in November.

As disgusted as I was by the decision in Kelo vs New London, that government shall not take private property except for public use was somehow the power to take private property for private use if there were some public benefit to be derived thereby - it DID prompt some legislation preventing such from occurring again.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704402404574527513453636326.html

“According to the Institute for Justice, which represented Susette Kelo, 43 states have since passed laws that place limits and safeguards on eminent domain, giving property owners greater security in their homes.”

101 posted on 06/28/2012 8:11:19 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

As I’m sitting here trying to digest this, shock and outrage giving away to fatigue from getting up way too early...I’m beginning to agree that maybe this will galvanize people and help the “get out the vote” effort to boot Obama.

It’s a huge victory for him, no doubt - but enough Americans are going to be pissed off about this, especially now that’s it’s officially a tax... that maybe this will give Romney some additional momentum.


102 posted on 06/28/2012 8:11:28 AM PDT by nerdgirl
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To: Flightdeck

Who do we vote for in voting against Obama, considering Romney is little different?


103 posted on 06/28/2012 8:15:23 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: Littlejon

Obamacare is unpopular and the only thing that makes ACA ‘constitutional’ is the fact that its a massive tax on all Americans.

Yup, let’s hope Obama runs on it until November.


104 posted on 06/28/2012 8:15:54 AM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: yield 2 the right

“I will not vote ever again for the GOP rather I will vote for the most liberal/socialists/leftists etc candidate from now on.
Voting any other way will not matter as it will be a waste of time and a vote.....”

That was tried in 2008 by lots of people, and look where it got us.


105 posted on 06/28/2012 8:17:45 AM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: Jeff Head
But, no. They then (it sounds like) unilaterally and unconstitutionally took it upon themselves to basically re-write the legislation and call that purchase mandate a tax and then say “now it is ok, proceed.”

How can the US SUPREME COURT WRITE ANY LEGISLATION?


They've done it in the past, but this is so egregious that the House needs to start impeachment procedures of all Justices writing law from the bench.

When Judge Vinson ruled Obamacare unconstitutional, he asked for an expidited appeal so that the Billions of wasted taxpayer dollars continued to be spent by the Ogabe administration (even after his injunction) would be minimal.

When the SCOTUS took more than a year to look at the issue.....I knew then, that the fix was in.
106 posted on 06/28/2012 8:19:50 AM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of their Moonbats)
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To: lurk

Don’t worry. The “right people” will get waivers. They’ll still get health care but will be exempt from the “tax”.


107 posted on 06/28/2012 8:20:19 AM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Lazlo in PA

What would Harriet Myers do?


108 posted on 06/28/2012 8:25:05 AM PDT by AdamBomb
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To: Lazlo in PA

Essentially, did the SC kick this back to Congress?

John Roberts determines that the entire cram down “law” is a TAX which the congress has a right to do, and on that determination alone makes it constitutional?


109 posted on 06/28/2012 8:25:59 AM PDT by RitaOK (NO ROMNEY, NO COMPROMISE. NO WAY. NO HOW. NOT NOW. NOT EVER.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

psss


110 posted on 06/28/2012 8:26:00 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: MuttTheHoople
Indeed.

WHITE HOUSE INSIDER: OBAMACARE …”Now we are truly ready to fight.”

111 posted on 06/28/2012 8:27:44 AM PDT by 1066AD
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To: MuttTheHoople

I think that is key. It is a TAX.

Republicans are saying if the law had been sold as a tax, it would never have passed. That isn’t true. While the Pelosi congress avoided the term “tax”, it would certainly have passed with a Democrat majority anyway.

They didn’t know or care what was in the dang thing, remember?


112 posted on 06/28/2012 8:30:12 AM PDT by RitaOK (NO ROMNEY, NO COMPROMISE. NO WAY. NO HOW. NOT NOW. NOT EVER.)
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To: MuttTheHoople

“It’s for your own good.”

It’s a man-date, bend over and enjoy the screwing the gub’ment’s gonna give us all.

Courtesy of Obama and his bribed Democrats.


113 posted on 06/28/2012 8:31:56 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Fools.Damn fools.Welcome to the USSA. Socialism is slavery to the State and the Supreme Court did it)
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To: 1066AD

Thanks, I have been following the Insider, too.


114 posted on 06/28/2012 8:33:02 AM PDT by RitaOK (NO ROMNEY, NO COMPROMISE. NO WAY. NO HOW. NOT NOW. NOT EVER.)
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To: 1066AD

Thanks, I have been following the Insider, too.


115 posted on 06/28/2012 8:33:02 AM PDT by RitaOK (NO ROMNEY, NO COMPROMISE. NO WAY. NO HOW. NOT NOW. NOT EVER.)
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To: allmendream
Many state legislatures have passed restrictions on compliance with the ACA, hopefully a lot more to come.

http://www.ncsl.org/issues-research/health/state-laws-and-actions-challenging-aca.aspx

116 posted on 06/28/2012 8:33:11 AM PDT by floozy22 (ACA: Repeal ! Repeal ! Repeal !)
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To: Norseman
Maybe, but personally, I think the sleeping giant has again been awakened, completely re-energized, with more power than ever before. You are going to see conservative activism over the next four months that makes the Tea Party of 2010 look like, well, just a tea party.

I PRAY you are right....we will see how many people are left in this country that care about it...

117 posted on 06/28/2012 8:33:58 AM PDT by Fawn (DEAR JESUS....PLEASE LET OBAMA LOSE.....AMEN.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Ah Gentlemen,before you start calling for a revolution....I will point out that time and time again we’ve seen the Judiciary with the backing of the media do everything to undermine American democracy.

What happens to Mr.Holder will be critically important if the Judicial system is to be put in its. place.


118 posted on 06/28/2012 8:34:06 AM PDT by Del Rapier
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To: cydcharisse; P-Marlowe; Perdogg
idiot Bush strikes again

Maybe not. I think he replaced O'Connor. Therefore, Roberts was not GW Bush's first choice. He was forced to turn to Roberts.

Harriett Miers would have gone along with the conservatives. She was a fairly solid pro-life vote, iirc. One of the arguments against her was that she wasn't very creative, and would have been a follower, not a leader.

What we can say about Roberts is that he is devious. He gets it both ways: gets to say the mandate is not viable under the commerce clause, which is what courts and conservatives were saying. So, he says that if the administration says the funding mechanism is a tax, then, despite the democrat's arguments in Congress, it is a tax.

Does this means we'll have a new line item on our paychecks: FICA, MED, and now Federal Health Care?

Is that what this means?

Also, everyone with any sense knows big business was dying to get out from under health care requirements. Big business also wanted cheap labor in America (Arizona ruling).

Could Roberts simply be a corporate interests vote?

119 posted on 06/28/2012 8:35:09 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Lazlo in PA; All

What I find amazing is that Kennedy would have STRUCK THE WHOLE LAW DOWN.

I understand some of Robert’s reasoning based upon reading parts of the opinion. He basically believed it was his role to defer to Congress on this rather than rule against it since he found it reasonable that it was a tax. He said in one part the people are responsible for whom they elect.

I disagree with him completely that the law is a tax, obviously, but let’s not forget this law was uphold on A VERY WEAK, SMALL LINK.

That makes it ripe for Republicans to still claim victory even with this ruling and work to repeal the law.


120 posted on 06/28/2012 8:35:28 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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