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To: mountn man

You posted, in part: If it were about ACTUALLY WANTING to slow down drivers, they’d OPENLY park in plain sight or drive along in traffic.
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You may be right, but I don’t think there are enough police to be a presence in enough locations. Certainly more of that could be done, though. The idea of catching speeders, I think, is to let all drivers know that they MIGHT be caught, and therefore should maintain the speed limit, even they can’t see any police around.

Why is everyone speeding anyway? And why the radar detectors. I generally drive around 5 mph over the limit and haven’t had a ticket in 35 years (when I was going WAY over the limit).


74 posted on 06/27/2012 6:55:05 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: NCLaw441
You may be right, but I don’t think there are enough police to be a presence in enough locations.Does parking and waiting have any more presence than a rolling squad? I'd contend that a squad moving AT the speed limit would detain cars from speeding, they would in essence create a wall, a sort of log jam, preventing the cars behind them from passing them and thus preventing them from speeding and this would continue farther and farther back.

Meanwhile, when people come upon a scanning radar squad or a pulled over car, they slow down BRIEFLY, until about a quarter to half mile past and then resume their previous speed. Thus the cop really hasn't accomplished anything, accept TEMPORARILY slow down traffic AND to write a ticket.

I can remember one time I was stuck in traffic on an expressway. Slow drivers in every lane. When a lane finally opened up, I swung out and passed.
What I hadn't noticed while traffic was backing up, was a State Trooper slowly moving up in the traffic. As I accelerated up to about 70 mph, he quickly came up behind me and then along side me, and motioned with his hand to slow down. No need to write a ticket. He accomplished his goal.

The idea of catching speeders, I think, is to let all drivers know that they MIGHT be caught, and therefore should maintain the speed limit, even they can’t see any police around.

Why is everyone speeding anyway? And why the radar detectors.

I think for most people on this thread its not about speeding or trying to get away with something.

I think most of the people on this forum see an us vs them mentality amongst cops. People no longer view cops as "serving and protecting". Whether people are speeding OR not, they still see cops hiding TRYING to "catch" people. Oh, the cops will try to excuse their behavior as "trying" to slow people down. REALITY is something else. First off, WHY are some of these cars UNMARKED?

Next, mars lights. Mars lights function in a traffic stop is for intimidation and embarassment. Cops, from their first interaction with people, are designed to put cops in control of the situation. Which is obviously important. BUT the cops have chosen a direction of interacting with the general population, BY FIRST using intimidation to set the tone of interaction, to set "authority".

What cops are doing when they pull someone over are using basic phsyops, in setting and controlling the situation. Which I'm not arguing completely against. What I am against is their way of CHOOSING to confront a situation. In phsyops, there are 2 ways of confronting a situation, in order to reach an outcome. Hard and soft. Hard is direct force on force or one on one confrontation. Soft is gentle or misdirecting force, to move one towards the desired direction. With soft, often times the object doesn't even realize its being moved or persuaded.

Cops have CHOSEN to confront people, to create the US vs THEM mentality.

Time and time and time again, people post threads on FR, describing cops choosing to confront and create this mentality. The cops have chosen this direction, and now they're angry that the general population is rebelling against them.

Humor is often taking everyday things and pointing out things about them, or mocking them.

That is why this is seen as funny by many. There is an element of truth to it.

75 posted on 06/27/2012 5:28:19 PM PDT by mountn man (Happiness is not a destination, its a way of life.)
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