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To: arrogantsob

Secession is not a legal option...

LOL - Of course it is not!
Rebellions, revolutions, and successions never are legal.

They are done in point of fact by locales, districts, areas or states, not by Federal law, and they are done because the controlling head of state has broken down into actions considered unlawful or repugnant to those so declaring - at gunpoint if needed.


12 posted on 06/25/2012 12:31:23 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: bill1952

Let me know when the Committees of Correspondence form.

You know, of course, that the Colonials exhausted all forms of legal protest and attempted to have their concerns addressed for decades before Lexington.


19 posted on 06/25/2012 12:45:51 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: bill1952

“LOL - Of course it is not!
Rebellions, revolutions, and successions never are legal.”

Wrong. Secessions are legal so long as they are carried out by the proper authority. For instance counties cannot legally secede from states because counties weren’t ever sovereign. States are, or are through the people. That’s according to the theory, of course. There isn’t really any such thing as sovereignty, but we pretend there is. And so long as we pretend, it is what it is.

The states did not give up the right to leave the U.S. because the power to do so was not explicitly denied to them by the Constitution. According to common sense as laid out in the 10th amendment, whatever is not granted to the feds or denied to the states is reserved by the states or the people. Secession is one such reserved power, and it derives from the sovereignty of the states. Therefore, secession is legal.

Lincoln or anyone can call it rebellion or revolution, but they’re plain wrong.


59 posted on 06/25/2012 1:40:57 PM PDT by Tublecane
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