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See y'all in the re-education camp! [:-/
1 posted on 06/25/2012 12:13:34 PM PDT by Bob Ireland
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Maybe you didn't hear? There was an entire war fought over the unilateral secession of American states from the Union. The seceding states got their b-yuttockes cleaned at Gettysburg, and they all eventually surrendered at Appomattox Courthouse in Virginia. The political and literal descedents of those rebels like to brag about how righteous their cause was and how they long to rise again. They haven't, and they aren't going to--all they've got is big mouths.
So don't go trying to tell us in Arizona how we';re going to handle the matter. We'll figure it our for ourselves.

The only model that exists in the United States now is a model of a bunch of losers. And by the way, the eternal rebel, Billy The Kid, is not a great role model. He's dead, you know.
73 posted on 06/25/2012 2:05:05 PM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine.)
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Unfortunately Brewer doesn’t have the chops to do the right thing for the country and the US Constitution.

For starters they should just remove Obama from the ballot.


89 posted on 06/25/2012 2:42:46 PM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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Unfortunately Brewer doesn’t have the chops to do the right thing for the country and the US Constitution.

For starters they should just remove Obama from the ballot.


90 posted on 06/25/2012 2:43:07 PM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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Secession would be so sweet. Can you see all the losers in washington befuddled as they begin to lose their god, money.It would be awesome to see.


91 posted on 06/25/2012 2:49:22 PM PDT by Carry me back
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This author therefore suggests that the state of Arizona call a Constitutional Convention of interested states - to potentially include Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Alaska and perhaps the Carolinas [and any other state wishing to bind itself under such restrictions as herein mentioned] - pursuant to forming a new sovereign nation established under the auspices of the original Constitution of the United States.

The court has upheld the most important parts of the Arizona law, so there's no reason for secession.

However, Arizona may follow you up on this and back out at the last minute, in order to "fake out" some of those other states.

92 posted on 06/25/2012 2:50:40 PM PDT by x
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Secession would be so sweet. Can you see all the losers in washington befuddled as they began to lose their god, money.It would be awesome to see. What an unholy place with their gay junk and all their other unholy alliances not supported by America.


93 posted on 06/25/2012 2:52:33 PM PDT by Carry me back
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Sure, the economies of the world are sinking and the forces of anarchy are marching in the streets everywhere. Armageddon may indeed be nigh ...

However, the real news today is that Bob Ireland is posting on Free Republic! Welcome to the fight! (again) :)

96 posted on 06/25/2012 2:57:32 PM PDT by The Duke
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All AZ has to do is continue to make arrests as usual and use the detainees as slaves building State projects like roads in the desert. It won’t take Obama long to back the Hell down when his voters are being held as slaves because the federal government refuses to deport them as required by law. So, AZ should just keep them until the feds pick them up for deportation.


98 posted on 06/25/2012 3:06:36 PM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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Take over congress and all this becomes moot.

It is very simple. We take over the senate via a veto proof majority. then no RINO rebellion from the WH.


101 posted on 06/25/2012 3:11:40 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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Thanks for this thread. For almost 80 years we have been saddled with the failed Keynesian Economic System. It has bankrupted the US Federal Government.

The derivatives of the WW2 Wage and Price Control Dictates are as follows: Medicare, Medicaid, Romney”care” and Obama”care.”

There will be additional calls for State Constitutional Conventions if the Republicans try to preserve or retain ANY of Obama or Romney”care.”

Obama”care” is the Death Knell for America. It must be ABOLISHED FOREVER if America is to survive.

If Obama”care” does survive, then I favor Regional Areas of the former United States of America. I think the States that the XL Pipeline will run through makes excellent sense for one Region, called The Texas Region. The Mississippi Region would be those States that the Mississippi River runs through. Pacific and Atlantic Regions are obvious, as are the Rocky Mountain States.

In this way people could vote with their feet and move to a greater or lesser degree of personal Liberty.

The Great Experiment of forcing the United States of America back into the European Feudal System began with FDR’s Social Security System and will end with Obama”care.”

No need for armed conflict, as we have already tried that with our bloody Civil War.

Just hold State Constitutional Conventions, split up into multi State Regions, and hold Fourth of July “Remember When Days” once a year, as we thank our lucky Stars that we in NO WAy are like Europe.


113 posted on 06/25/2012 3:38:21 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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Guess we need to adjust the text a bit. The government and all parties involved are criminal enterprises.

115 posted on 06/25/2012 3:43:11 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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My prediction is that in the very near future, AZ cops will undergo instruction on how to find an illegal in violation of an AZ state law — any AZ state law — that lets the state hold them. I would expect the state legislature to come up with some imaginative solutions to asssist in this regard.

As a show of solidarity, I’d like to call on every GOP legislature in the country to pass similar statutes.


120 posted on 06/25/2012 5:12:07 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda machine.)
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BFLR


124 posted on 06/25/2012 7:43:54 PM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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Sorry, Bob, but I'll never make it to the camp.

Very well written, BTW ....................................... FRegards

127 posted on 06/25/2012 10:19:53 PM PDT by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms ... FRegards)
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Of course Arizona has been the state in the news for its visceral rejection of the tactics of the Obama nation. Sounds like

ארץ ציונה

i.e. the land toward (in the direction of) Zion.

Seventy years of weeping.

Dan 9.2. In the first year of his reign, I, Daniel, perceived in the books the number of years (בספרים משפר השנים), which, according to the word of the Lord that came to Jeremiah the prophet, must pass before the end of the desolations of Jerusalem; seventy years:

In the first year of his reign, I, Daniel, perceived 1177*, which, according to the word of the Lord that came to Jeremiah the prophet, must pass before the end of the desolations of Jerusalem; seventy years:

* בספרים משפר השנים =1177

1177

Jerusalem, allegory for America

Paint by number!

130 posted on 06/26/2012 12:57:04 AM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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I think the authors premise is largely correct. While I’m not a seccessionist as I don’t favor that course of action for Virginia at this time, the case can be made that certain states would be better off going it alone. TX and LA immediately come to mind, but perhaps AZ as well. That’s for the citizens of those states to decide.


173 posted on 06/29/2012 3:50:12 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Thank you Chief Justice Arnold!)
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