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Tesla Model S: First drive of the electric sedan that will change the world or die trying
autos.yahoo.com ^ | June 22, 2012 | Justin Hyde

Posted on 06/23/2012 4:39:20 PM PDT by grundle

Of all the new cars unveiled this year, none will be as hotly anticipated as the Model S from Tesla Motors, a luxury sedan doubling as a brash, billion-dollar bet that the era of the electric car has arrived. As the first journalist to test-drive one, I can report the Tesla Model S successfully challenges a century of assumptions about what a great car can be.

Unlike gas engines, electric cars generate their maximum power at start -- and no electric car has ever had as much power as the Model S, whose Performance edition is good for 417 hp. The zero-to-60 mph run ticks by in an impressive 4.4 seconds (5.9 seconds for the 362 hp edition)

the Model S can even do long drives — up to 285 miles in the edition launching today

The revelation of what Tesla has accomplished sunk in when I returned to a gas-powered vehicle. Other luxury cars will keep pace with the Tesla, but after driving the Model S, suddenly you notice the lag between accelerator and power, the exhaust noise, all the energy necessary to keep those parts hurtling forward. It makes a fossil fuel-powered car seem to be working so much harder than necessary. Which is the point.

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KEYWORDS: bloggersandpersonal; cars; green; sourcetitlenoturl; tesla; teslamotors
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To: fireman15

Just a few details made me see “boondoggle” in this whole thing anyhow, the biggest one being the word “subsidy”. The article reads like a sales pitch, about as shallow and transparent as those pitches used to attempt to sell the Chevy Volt.


121 posted on 06/23/2012 10:52:26 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
I’m simply letting a responsible adult know I was crying and whining and stomping my feet, hoping daddy would help

Yuk yuk yuk...

122 posted on 06/23/2012 10:52:53 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

ooh you look so weird.

She said, man, there’s really something wrong with you.
One day you’re gonna self-destruct.

Youre up, you’re down, I can’t work you out
You get a good thing goin then you blow yourself out.

Silly boy ya self-destroyer


123 posted on 06/23/2012 11:00:49 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse
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To: Figment

You don’t know WTF you are talking about.

Top 10% pay over 70% of federal income tax.

Percentile 11- 50 pay only ~26% of federal income tax.

Percetile 51-70 pay ~2%.

The bottom pay nothing.


124 posted on 06/23/2012 11:02:55 PM PDT by Reaganez
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Nice song and dance jingle ya there slick...

((Too funny))


125 posted on 06/23/2012 11:05:02 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse; dragnet2
Electric car technology hasn’t really changed since the turn of the century. I mean to say, it hasn’t changed since the turn of the PREVIOUS century.

The technologies actually have evolved, but unfortunately the cost / benefit equation has improved very little if at all. It was interesting that the author started the article discussing the whizzbang control screen. I believe if the government is spending hundreds of millions of our tax dollars... they ought to be concentrating on basic transportation not super expensive play things.

When we finally do get to the point where hydrocarbon based fuel sources actually do start to get prohibitively expensive... it is not too difficult to imagine people switching over to glorified golf carts to commute and run their errands. That will be far enough in the future that the Tesla vehicles will probably be just a footnote in the annals of government waste records.

We currently do not have the power generation facilities or the grid to support such a transition. That is where it would make sense to spend the money. I don't see electric utility companies and golf cart manufacturing companies currently getting huge subsidies. That is because in our system when companies turn out useful products they don't need giant governement subsidies.

126 posted on 06/23/2012 11:11:40 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

BTW, stay our of my PM...

If ya got something to say to me, keep it public, right here junior.


127 posted on 06/23/2012 11:13:21 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

BTW, stay our of my PM...


Who ever is holding the bottle really needs to cut you off.


128 posted on 06/23/2012 11:16:04 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse
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To: Olog-hai
the biggest one being the word “subsidy”

Amen to that!

129 posted on 06/23/2012 11:16:59 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

As I said, stay out of my PM

Ya got something to say to me, say it right here on the open forum sonny.

And feel free to call and whine to the (AM) hall monitor again!

Hehehe...


130 posted on 06/23/2012 11:19:23 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

As I said, stay out of my PM


Actually, you said “BTW, stay our of my PM... “

I haven’t sent any Private Messages to you since before your odd, slurred post #127.

You may want to call for medical attention. If you’d rather not, at least lay off the booze. You’re an embarassment.


131 posted on 06/23/2012 11:23:51 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
I haven’t sent any Private Messages to you since before I cried to the hall monitor

I love it!

132 posted on 06/23/2012 11:26:11 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

How cute. Really.

You’ve spent your entire life trying to remake reality.

You’re amused, but that part has always come so easily.

How sad.

You numb your senses far too often and play your peculiar little games. It makes you feel a bit better, but it’s still all a bizarre little fantasy.

In the end, it’s all just dumped into a cheap wood box.

Is there anyone who will bother to visit and leave a few wilted flowers?


133 posted on 06/23/2012 11:34:51 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
You’ve spent your entire life trying to remake reality.

LOL!

134 posted on 06/23/2012 11:36:30 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Have a few more drinks. You’re less annoying when you pass out.


135 posted on 06/23/2012 11:37:33 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

You’re a hoot!


136 posted on 06/23/2012 11:38:23 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

I hate to say it, but for all the hype about electric cars, Tesla did something right that GM completely flubbed:

No-one’s gonna add $20,000 to the price of a $10,000 car for it to be electric. But those who would already buy a $70,000 would pay $90,000 for it to be electric, if being electric meant it had the most kick-ass performance ever.

Tesla was aiming for under $50,000. That they had to go as low as 40 kwh to make it $50,000 means they failed badly. And yet, they will still be profitable and pay those loans back. At $100,000 a car, it doesn’t take too long to pay off $1 billion startup costs.


137 posted on 06/24/2012 5:08:06 AM PDT by dangus
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Frankly, I think Tesla’s big mistake is battery management. I sure as hell wouldn’t pay for a car that I couldn’t even visit my folks in. Using Battery swaps at refueling would defer costs to Tesla down the road, but allow you to travel more than 250 miles in a day.


138 posted on 06/24/2012 5:12:28 AM PDT by dangus
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To: NavVet; St_Thomas_Aquinas

The problem is that much of that energy is lost, anyway, in the conversion INTO electricity.

The great advantage of electric cars is that you don’t have to carry a power plant and fuel around with you, allowing the energy to be from Thorium, coal, solar, whatever.


139 posted on 06/24/2012 5:27:19 AM PDT by dangus
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To: NavVet

“Electric cars use less energy “

Um, two cars that weight the same going the same speed and having accelerated at the same rate used the same amount of energy reglardless of their powerplant.


140 posted on 06/24/2012 6:04:09 AM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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