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1 posted on 06/23/2012 2:27:53 PM PDT by blam
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Chicoms lying about anything....everything....who knew?


2 posted on 06/23/2012 2:29:35 PM PDT by john drake
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Sounds familiar.


3 posted on 06/23/2012 2:30:33 PM PDT by citizencon
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” Chinese Economic Data Is Looking Horrible, And The Government Is Lying About It “

And we expected them to be somehow more ‘pure’ than any other Gummint??

(Seen a US employment report lately??)


4 posted on 06/23/2012 2:32:46 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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China has a serious debt problem.

Government debt is 89% of GDP.


6 posted on 06/23/2012 2:45:59 PM PDT by moonshot925
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China's Phony Economic Data

Saturday, June 23, 2012

Even NyTi is starting to get it:

As the Chinese economy continues to sputter, prominent corporate executives in China and Western economists say there is evidence that local and provincial officials are falsifying economic statistics to disguise the true depth of the troubles.

Record-setting mountains of excess coal have accumulated at the country’s biggest storage areas because power plants are burning less coal in the face of tumbling electricity demand. But local and provincial government officials have forced plant managers not to report to Beijing the full extent of the slowdown, power sector executives said.

Electricity production and consumption have been considered a telltale sign of a wide variety of economic activity. They are widely viewed by foreign investors and even some Chinese officials as the gold standard for measuring what is really happening in the country’s economy, because the gathering and reporting of data in China is not considered as reliable as it is in many countries.

Indeed, officials in some cities and provinces are also overstating economic output, corporate revenue, corporate profits and tax receipts, the corporate executives and economists said. The officials do so by urging businesses to keep separate sets of books, showing improving business results and tax payments that do not exist...

“The government officials don’t want to see the negative,” so they tell power managers to report usage declines as zero change, said a chief executive in the power sector.

Another top corporate executive in China with access to electricity grid data from two provinces in east-central China that are centers of heavy industry, Shandong and Jiangsu, said that electricity consumption in both provinces had dropped more than 10 percent in May from a year earlier. Electricity consumption has also fallen in parts of western China. Yet, the economist with ties to the statistical agency said that cities and provinces across the country had reported flat or only slightly rising electricity consumption.

The past money printing which distorted investments in the country, plus the heavy central planning that still exists in sectors of the economy, will result in one of the greatest economic crashes in history.

It will be blamed on China's move toward capitalism, but it is the government interference in the market economy via central banking and government directed activity that has set up the phony boom and developing crash.

7 posted on 06/23/2012 3:00:55 PM PDT by blam
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If this keeps up, it’ll take the Chinese three years longer to zoom by us on GNP.


8 posted on 06/23/2012 3:03:07 PM PDT by BobL
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“China’s lying!” Don’t look at the world’s factories in Asia! Look at Iberian Europe! Oh, no! Our wonderful brothels in southern Europe! “Look at Europe!”

But don’t look at the debt regime in our USA, folks, whatever you do.

[It’s hard to stop looking at the debt regime built by our political regulators—not to mention their current officious robberies and other crime sprees. They’re really noisy and stupid.]


10 posted on 06/23/2012 4:03:38 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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Where’s the “unexpectedly”, or “surprisingly” revised numbers like 0b0wma’s regime?


35 posted on 06/23/2012 6:51:29 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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