Fast and Furious was stupid and people should be held accountable. However, as a staunch 2nd Amendment Supporter I can’t stomach the overblown and false statements list this one from the article -
“Brian Terry was killed as a direct result of the Obama/Holder botched Operation Fast and Furious.”
This would never have been true for 2nd Amendment folks before, so why is it now? Guns don’t kill people. People kill people using whatever is available. I dare anyone to suggest that Brian Terry would not have been killed if it had not been for Fast and Furious. The cartels have lots of guns and from what I understand there were about 2000 guns total that were walked. I bet the cartels have many many times that number of firearms.
Fast and Furious was stupid to the nth degree, but everyone who overplays the stupidity voids their logical reasoning to refute statements by Sharpton et al such as “if Ruger did not make firearms that murder would not have happened.”
A gun is a tool. It is a regulated commodity, but it is an inanimate object that requires the actions of a person to function. We need to hold those responsible for this stupid operation accountable to the fullest extent, but we also need to stop making statements that would have been crucified on this board, in the NRA boardroom, and around the dinner table 2 years ago as illogical and absurd.
Blaming a flawed operation for firearms being in Mexico is logically no different than blaming the manufacturer or retailer of the firearm. The illegal criminal turd shot Brian Terry by pulling the trigger on a firearm. There is nothing special about the firearm or the ammunition... it’s one of millions that exists in the world today.
Continued prayers for Brian’s family and those who serve us in the Border Patrol. I want them to get the answers. I want to know the truth as much as anyone else, but suggesting Fast and Furious killed Brian Terry is no different than Bloomberg blaming a murder on lax firearms laws in North Carolina.
Are you seriously this stupid?
Providing firearms to criminals is something no Second Amendment supporter would condone.
Obama and Holder provided firearms to the most viscious criminals in North America!
Please, you cannot be this stupid.
I agree with your analysis of the misguided public’s perception and the false narrative about ‘guns kill’. However, the real story is the underlying possibility that Terry’s death might have been in inside job to cover up his awareness of the intent of F&F which was to get assault weapons banned in the United States.
um so fast and furious also had nothing to do with killing 300 innocent Mexicans in Mexico and untold others in the US?
I so sorry you can’t correlate the illegal actions by our govt agents with the results.
I feel assured if I sold a gun to someone who I knew to be a bad hombre with bad intentions, and they went out and killed a Democrat Judge or Congressman that I would be in jail for the rest of my life or worse, and I’m just a civilian. Law Enforcers of the gun laws not only knew better and had no excuse they planned to get the guns into the hands of narco-terrorists and knew they would be recovered at murder crime scenes-accomlices, CONSPIRATORS etc to premediated murder and an attempt to violate all Americans 2nd amendment right and illegally run/walk guns to Mexico (and who know where else?) There was no valid law enforcement mission, it was nothing but a gun grab set up..
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/25/us-crime-newmexico-gunrunning-idUSTRE77O7XG20110825
If there was an FBI informant on a rip team, then the FBI had at least an inkling of where the rip team would be, and may have developed the tip that led to the rip team being there.
Coordination with the Border Patrol could have prevented the clash that led to Brian Terry's death.
That the rip team had F&F weapons indicates some sort of connection, possible to bolster the 'credibility' of the informant (which the whole operation may have been).
Informants aren't agents, they are often smarmy turncoats who are glorified because of the people they sell out, and they'd sell out their grandmother if they thought there was something in it for them. Without cred, they're dead.
Lay this at the doorstep of your choice: The war on drugs, the (still) absence of border security due in part to "immigration policy", or the BATF for providing the weapons, or all three. Bureaucratic incompetence bordering on criminal negligence can be claimed in the lack of operational coordination at the very least.
While the cartels may have no shortage of weapons, feeding them more didn't help the situation, and the ones used came from F&F.