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Romney’s conversion on abortion - Is it authentic?
LifeSite News ^ | June 18, 2012 | Dr. Jack Willke

Posted on 06/20/2012 7:41:28 AM PDT by hocndoc

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To: hocndoc

“He followed through by vetoing anti-life bills”

Isn’t it possible that that Romney, with a law degree, a Harvard MBA, years of experience in the boardroom, a knowledge of corporate marketing strategies, a family with a history in politics (and horse trading) and future political aspirations, simply knew that the MA legislature would provide him with the cover he needed to claim conversion on abortion???


81 posted on 06/21/2012 10:35:19 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; Windflier
Massachusetts wanted Romney as a liberal who could save them a little money compared to Democrats. Romney ran and delivered on that platform. And he still got ousted in favor of a more radical liberal.

I would describe it differently, Romney was the fourth Republican Governor in a row, in a state that prefers Republican Governors. He just did a lousy job.

82 posted on 06/21/2012 11:22:11 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: wagglebee; Salvation; SecAmndmt; Windflier; All

Y’all have your minds made up, and appear to have decided that you will believe the worst of Romney no matter the evidence. I don’t believe the vetoes were calculated; I believe they were an attempt to turn the Mass. Legislature.

I also believe people can have a change of heart and beliefs, and this is a believable “conversion” story.

The facts are simple. Obama will push abortion and euthanasia, and will regulate accordingly. He will nominate judges accordingly. He will have nothing to lose as a lame duck President.

Romney, on the other hand, will have a lot to prove and everything to lose.

I’m encouraged by this story, yes. But the intractable opinions on this Board are great incentive for me to work for Romney, and against Obama.

2006 or 2008 must not happen again. We need to get out the vote and win the Senate and strengthen the House. I’d prefer a moderate over Obama in the White House and Executive Branch.


83 posted on 06/22/2012 5:49:34 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold Rs to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: hocndoc
I’d prefer a moderate over Obama

If you think Romney's a moderate, you'd better review his record again. Any liberal Democrat would be proud to have a record like that.

84 posted on 06/22/2012 7:37:51 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: ansel12
Romney was the fourth Republican Governor in a row, in a state that prefers Republican Governors. He just did a lousy job.

A 'lousy job'? Are you kidding me? Romney did a great job of forwarding the leftist agenda in Massachusetts. To wit:

Mitt Romney’s Dismal Record

"As U.S. real output grew 13 percent between 2002 and 2006, Massachusetts trailed at 9 percent.

* Manufacturing employment fell 7 percent nationwide those years, but sank 14 percent under Romney, placing Massachusetts 48th among the states.

* Between fall 2003 and autumn 2006, U.S. job growth averaged 5.4 percent, nearly three times Massachusetts' anemic 1.9 percent pace.

* While 8 million Americans over age 16 found work between 2002 and 2006, the number of employed Massachusetts residents actually declined by 8,500 during those years.

"Massachusetts was the only state to have failed to post any gain in its pool of employed residents," professors Sum and McLaughlin concluded.

In an April 2003 meeting with the Massachusetts congressional delegation in Washington, Romney failed to endorse President Bush's $726 billion tax-cut proposal."

[Cato Institute annual Fiscal Policy Report Card - America's Governors, 2004.]


Romney's "accomplishments".

1. Implemented/created Gay Marriage in MA

2. Supported and forced Gay Adoption in MA

3. Supported Abortion wholeheartedly

4. Raised taxes/fees over 300% while being Governor of MA

5. Implemented a state-level Cap and Trade system.

6. Supported Man-Made Global Warming

7. Supported the Brady Bill

8. Implemented a state level “Assault” Weapons Ban after the Federal AWB was allowed to expire.

9. Supported TARP

10. Supported Amnesty for Illegal Aliens (Citizenship for those already here)

11. Supported McCain-Kennedy (Amnesty)

12. Implemented a socialized medicine in MA called RomneyCare complete with an Individual Mandate and $50 abortions.

13. Nominated 27 Democrats (out of 36 nominations) for judgeships in MA, many of them extreme left-wingers.

85 posted on 06/22/2012 7:42:22 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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If you think Romney's a moderate, you'd better review his record again. Any liberal Democrat would be proud to have a record like that.

Romney is one of the most successful liberal politicians in history.

Things like socialized medicine with cheap taxpayer-funded abortion, homosexual "marriage" and gun grabbing have been the holy grail of liberalism for the past fifty years.

Romney succeeded where people like the Kennedys and Clintons had failed. As a leftist, Romney can be counted right up there with FDR and LBJ.

86 posted on 06/22/2012 8:18:25 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Romney succeeded where people like the Kennedys and Clintons had failed. As a leftist, Romney can be counted right up there with FDR and LBJ.

And to think....all they had to do was paste an R on his sleeve, and the political right rolled right over for him. No wonder the Republicans are known as the 'stupid party'.

What really burns my hide, is the fact that people are being allowed to openly stump for this quisling traitor on a conservative website.

87 posted on 06/22/2012 8:47:13 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
What really burns my hide, is the fact that people are being allowed to openly stump for this quisling traitor on a conservative website.

Yep, if he had a "D" after his name his supporters would be banned.

88 posted on 06/22/2012 8:53:46 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Windflier

You need to rephrase #13, to non-republicans, some of them were independents.


89 posted on 06/22/2012 10:45:07 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: wagglebee
Yep, if he had a "D" after his name his supporters would be banned.

And that's just the point, isn't it? Despite claiming to be conservatives, and nodding along in agreement with every conservative thread here, some people really only care about party affiliation.

The honest ones will tell you that they can only stomach Romney when he's juxtaposed against Obama, and that they feel they've been tricked into a corner that they see no way out of. I can appreciate that, but the majority of Romney supporters here, have taken to actually defending that liberal poser, and trying to convince others that it's actually right to give him our votes. ????



90 posted on 06/22/2012 5:31:23 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: hocndoc

“2006 or 2008 must not happen again.”

2006 and 2008 occurred precisely because conservatives refused to hold the Republican Congress and the Bush administration accountable for massive spending increases.

And you don’t seem to have learned anything from that experience. There will be minimal opposition to a Romney administration from conservatives in Congress; there seems to be barely any opposition to Obama from R’s in Congress right now!! Under a Romney presidency R’s will want to be “team players” (recall Santorum’s admission in regards to supporting NCLB and the prescription drug plan) and will support whatever liberal or socialist trash Romney sends their way.

This obsession with winning the Presidency at all costs harms the Republic. We need to focus on electing honest constitutionalists as Governors, state legislators and in Congress, real public servants who will be willing to nullify unconstitutional federal legislation.


91 posted on 06/23/2012 2:31:30 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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